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Name 4 Bourbons for me, Ienan.

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Hey Khross, I was thinking of picking up some Knob Creek. Would you have any alternate suggestions around that price point?

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Go for the Woodford Reserve. Most people tend to forget the Knob Creek, Baker's, Basil Hayden's, and Booker's are all made by Jim Beam. And, generally speaking, they're bad Bourbon.

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I did indeed "forget" (as if I actually knew heh) that Beam makes Knob Creek. I was intentionally trying to get away from Beam. Thanks.

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You already did! But there are many. Gentleman Jack is nice. Woodford Reserve was very nice. One of the stronger ones I've had. But I like regular Jack and Jim Beam too. I like most bourbons I've encountered.

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You are a horrible, horrible person who can longer speak of whisky.

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Bah! Different tastes for different people!

I will be the first person to admit there exist very fine whiskies to be had for decent prices; that said, you called a Tennessee Sour Mash Whiskey (Jack Daniel's) a bourbon. You are a heathen.

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That's just a technicality. Brown-Forman may not call Jack Daniels a bourbon, but according to the regulatory standards, it could easily be called one. I'll be the first to say I'm not an astute bourbon drinker (or any type of alcohol for that matter), but it's arguing semantics. For all intents and purposes, it could be classified in the same category as one. And I will admit that I love it. I especially love cooking with it and Jim Beam. Makes for nice sauces for chicken and beef too.

Maker's Mark
Corner Creek
Eagle Rare Single Barrel
Woodford Reserve

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Most Irish Whiskeys are blends. (And unlike Scotch, being a "blend" does not in any way denigrate the quality of the Irish Whiskey. A "Blend" refers to a blending of malted and unmalted grain, as opposed to blending the finished product.) Single Malt Irish Whiskeys are rare, but if you find one, it will be only subtlely different from a good Scotch. In fact, the signature difference between Scotch Whisky and Irish Whiskey is whether they use a kiln to dry the malted barley, or whether they allow the peat-smoke at the grain...and even among Scotch brands, there is a wide variation there. West coast distilleries like Laphroaig on Islay tend to be harsh and smokey. (If you have a chance to try some very expensive Laphroaig, it's worth a taste. Not to say you'll like it--I can't stand the stuff. It's like drinking liquid smoke.) East coast distilleries like Glenmorangie (my favorite Scotch Whisky) tend to be less smokey.

Irish Whiskeys usually use a kiln which entirely shelters the malt-barley from the peat smoke, but otherwise are identical to Scotch. A few Irish Whiskeys even peat smoke their barley-malt, which blurs the lines even further.

Canadian/Rye Whisky is more like bourbon, with that subtle spicy-fruity flavor, though is usually far less sweet.

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Could we move this thread to General? It should go where all the other spammy stuff is.

Using a racist epithet would not work on the main page sparky.

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I saw the trap and was waiting for it to spring. That being said, I think Ienan made his saving throw.

It's a misnomer that blending liquor always denigrates the quality. I think you're confusing "single malt", "single grain" and "blended" whiskeys. When an Irish whiskey is referred to as "blended", it's referring to a mixture of different "batches" of whiskey, rather than the "blend" of grains used. Bushmills makes a single malt, and it only resembles Scotch in color and the fact that it contains alcohol.

I've had quarter cask, 10 year old, 18 year old and 30 year old (Cairdeas) Laphroaig none of which would I call harsh. That said, I prefer Lowland and Speyside scotch. I just don't have the palate to pick out much from either Islay or Campbeltown Scotch. The east coast of Scotland comprises more than one tradition of scotch-making, ranging from Highland and Speyside to Lowland - each is different.

There are more differences between Irish Whiskey and Scotch Whisky than just the smoking. The distillation process, age - as well as aging process and the ingredients (only malted barley for Scotch, a mixture of raw and malted for Irish) are all different, usually as mandated by law.

I'm still confused by the reference to Crown, but all that said, there are unique Irish Whiskeys that resemble Scotch, but they are usually intended to resemble Scotch.

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Johnny Walker Blue label is really good. This one time in London I was staying at a hotel and it was 25 pounds per shot. I didn't have it there of course.

Yup it is good, as long as you don't mind paying a premium for the marketing or to look cool.

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Actually, Federal Law prevents one from calling Jack Daniel's a bourbon. You should check your own link.

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I'm confused Khross. I read it fully. What section are you citing? I'm citing this:


edit: I see the section you're citing. The only reason Jack Daniels can't be called bourbon under federal law is because it's not made in Bourbon County, Kentucky (which largely doesn't even exist anymore). But NAFTA overrides US law in this case, because a product of Tennessee can be labeled bourbon. This is all semantics. It's just as no other region in the world can make champagne grapes unless they're produced in the Champagne region of France. That's silly regulatory nonsense made up by governments. I would have thought you would have been more about the spirit of the product and less about the governmental regulations.

And Jack doesn't taste anything like bourbons. If you want to get into the spirit of the product, I wouldn't even call Jim Beam a bourbon and probably not Wild Turkey.

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That's what I said...although with Scotch, specifically, "blends" are cheaper and less regarded.



I used Crown Royal as an example of Canadian/Rye whisky. It's far from the best, but it's the most exported. (I rather prefer Wiser's Deluxe.) They are far sweeter and more heavily flavored than most Irish whiskeys (which more resemble a lighter Scotch like The Glenlivet in flavor).

Glad you liked the Laphroaig. You aren't alone -- the stuff is expensive for a reason. I cannot drink it. It's just too smokey.

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But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I disagree. It's a bit sweeter than most bourbons, but it's not far away from what I've had. The notes are very similar. I feel like sometimes I'm debating with Sheldon Cooper. Technically, it may not be, but for all intents and purposes it could easily be thrown into that category, just as most sparkling wines from California or anywhere else could legitimately be called champagne.

Heheh, I didn't say I liked it.

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