The Glade 4.0

And it becomes clearer and clearer how refusing to take taxpayer money has helped Ford recover far faster...

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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I can not tell if that is Sarcasm or not, mostly because I don't know the state of Ford.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

Better than the other 2 of the "big three," though not exactly the picture of corporate health.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

They're solvent, and they're recovering. They've also boosted their reputation big-time, and their sales are great compared to Chrysler/GM.

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Well Ali Baba had them forty thieves, Scheherezade had a thousand tales
But master you in luck 'cause up your sleeves you got a brand of magic never fails...
...Mister Aladdin, sir, What will your pleasure be?
Let me take your order, Jot it down -You ain't never had a friend like me
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Indeed.

Their cars still blow though, in terms of design. Fugly.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

<3 Ford's Ecoboost engine.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

I dunno... Lisa just got a Focus a couple months ago.. it is kind of cool.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10 ... latestnews

Report: Cash for Clunkers Auto Program Cost Taxpayers $24,000 Per Vehicle
A report conducted by the automotive information firm Edmunds.com found that of the nearly 690,000 vehicles sold under the program, only 125,000 of the sales were incremental.

American taxpayers doled out $24,000 per vehicle sold under the government's "Cash for Clunkers" auto program, according to a study released Wednesday.

The report, conducted by the automotive information firm Edmunds.com in Santa Monica, Calif., found that of the nearly 690,000 vehicles sold under the program, only 125,000 of the sales could be credited directly to the Cash-for-Clunkers program.

The rest of the sales would have happened anyway, despite the government program, the report said -- raising questions over its effectiveness.

The report also said that the average cost for a vehicle in August 2009 was only $26,915 -- minus an average cash rebate of $1,667.

Cash for Clunkers -- officially known as the Car Allowance Rebate System -- was a $3 billion program intended to provide economic incentives to Americans to purchase a new, more fuel efficient cars when they traded in an older, less efficient vehicle.

The program was touted for giving a boost to auto sales while increasing the sales of more fuel-efficient vehicles

http://www.edmunds.com/help/about/press ... ticle.html <-- link to Edmunds study.
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So 24,000 bucks for a vehicle that ended up having it's engine seized and sold off for parts. Really- did anyone read the requirements for what was considered a clunker?

This was a new deal type program. Flush our money down the toilet in order to artifically inflate the numbers.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Hannibal:

The best part of is that CFC created a liquidity sink for people who couldn't afford cars to lose more money and leverage more debt they didn't need.

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Actually, I think the best part is this:

During the GM bailout fiasco, the powers that be repeatedly declared that a big part of GM's problem is that they weren't selling enough fuel-economical vehicles.

So what they do immediately after bailing GM out? Offer people a cash incentive to buy vehicles that they don't believe GM makes.

Idiots.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Which means it is still mostly "not cool".

Same idiots that currently negotiating with GMAC to give the company another $2-5 billion in bail out funds, to increase the government holding from its current 34% ($12 billion currently invested in the company).

Is it legal to have government controlled private companies over there? I know it's not legal here.
Would those extra shares (bought with the more funds) put the government as the largest single share holder in the company? /boggle

It's not supposed to be but that doesn't seem to stop them.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

The rule of law?

Bah!

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

I rather fond of the fact that some 690,000 vehicles that would have been on the market for the folks who couldn't/should't buy new are gone; those cars are unavailable for purchase, and the remaining used cars are that much more in demand. Add this to Khross' point, and boy am I glad the powers that be are so concerned with the "underprivileged". It's scary to think how they'd act if they didn't care so much.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Even if they are shareholder, they don't change company policy via the board of directors. They just pass legislation!

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The Dude abides.

Amen.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

Barack Obama's Campaign Promises

"I will always be a strong advocate for a market that is free and open."—9/17/07, New York City

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

I haven't been happy with the Focus we bought. The motor in the window mechanism died, and we had some other problems with it. We bought it at low mileage (used, obviously). Good fuel efficiency, and for a small car it's got good leg room. But yeah, I think I'm gonna get a Honda next time, if I can't get a hybrid.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Power window motors aren't typically built by the manufacturer, they are bought in bulk from parts suppliers, unless they need a very special propietary unit, and even then, they can be bought in smaller lots under contract with some in-house design collobration.

Consider yourself lucky.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

My guess is that this quote is very seriously taken out of context. If I had to make a guess, he also likely talked about sensible regulation and even government intervention when the need arises.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

This is hilarious when you consider this thread is right next to the Limbaugh thread.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Gee, I guess I hold Barak Obama in significantly higher esteem than Rush Limbaugh. Wonder why that might be...

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show