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Uncle Fester
 Post subject: Operation Gun Runner
PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:17 pm 
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03 ... stigation/

Surprised this has not turned up here early, a great job by the ATF, if by great job you mean arming Mexican drug cartels.

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Under Project Gunrunner and the Phoenix off-shoot, dubbed Fast and Furious, the ATF encouraged gun store owners to sell to straw buyers -- consumers who they suspected of working on behalf of Mexican drug cartels.

Project Gunrunner purposely allowed the straw buyers to illegally buy and export guns only to see where they surfaced in Mexico. Using this investigative technique, the ATF hoped to take down the entire gun trafficking organization. Instead, records show it allowed more than 1,700 guns, including hundreds of AK-47s and high-powered, armor-piercing .50-caliber rifles to be trafficked to Mexico

Buying guns for non-personal use is illegal. Yet gun store owners were assured by ATF agents the buyers were under investigation and the guns were being intercepted before crossing into Mexico


And thus we (libs) get to use the rhetoric that guns are out of control and have to be regulated on the US side!

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And this is why you don't cooperate with law enforcement when they want you to break the law.

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Wow, that was a poorly executed (and possibly conceived) plan.
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Guns are just a good that can be manufactured in even rudimentary factories, so I don't see what the big deal is.
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Lex Luthor wrote:
Guns are just a good that can be manufactured in even rudimentary factories, so I don't see what the big deal is.


Because the libs have been using the "American guns are killing Mexicans!" line as an excuse to try and curtail gun rights in the US, and now we find out the government is ordering gun sellers to break the law which helps with the murders.

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Good lookin' out ATF! Thanks.

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before this report came out, they tried to hang the blame on 3 gun stores here in phoenix by claiming that they had been making questionable sales. The owner of at least 1 of the store had documented all the sales, and related phone calls to the atf where they reported the questionable sales and were told to continue.

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The ATF needs to be dissolved anyway. When law enforcement breaks the law, what is that called?

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Wwen wrote:
The ATF needs to be dissolved anyway. When law enforcement breaks the law, what is that called?

Its an entity with no accountability, and no standards to which they enforce their rules. So id just call it daily operations.

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ATF should cease to be a law enforcement agency and become a political party. Hell, just make it a party - I'd go.

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ATF should cease to be a law enforcement agency and become a political party. Hell, just make it a party - I'd go.

Can we make it the HATF Then? Hookers, Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms? In fact forget the Tobacco and Firearms.

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Hopwin wrote:
Can we make it the HATF Then? Hookers, Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms?


I've been to a party like that. I have to say - not that much fun, really.
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Then you are doing it wrong~!

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