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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:04 am 
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A graphic explanation of the progression of the Fukushima Daiichi incident.

Came across it, thought I would share. It is a series of photos and illustrations explaining the design of the reactors and the progression of the incident. Safe for work.

http://socialwaves.blog.youphil.com/med ... 006032.pdf

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The Engrish makes it kind of tough to follow parts of the report.

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There's definitely some components of reactors that I'm not familiar with. This was pretty good, but generated more questions than it answered. I'm going to have to look into the reactor designs more.

/google: detailed design plans for major nuclear reactors; critical components that will generate catastrophy


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
There's definitely some components of reactors that I'm not familiar with. This was pretty good, but generated more questions than it answered. I'm going to have to look into the reactor designs more.

/google: detailed design plans for major nuclear reactors; critical components that will generate catastrophy

Showing results for detailed design plans for major nuclear reactors; critical components that will generate catastrophe. Search instead for detailed design plans for major nuclear reactors; critical components that will generate catastrophy.

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The reactors have started a criticality event. This is very, very bad.

Workers there are now expecting to die from radiation poisoning.

And they can't even provide dosimeters.

Link from Fox news:


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The video linked above was posted on 4/1 and is from "MOX"News.com. I'm also not seeing reports of a criticality event from any other news source.

Is this reliable?

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Consider how long we heard about Haiti, Katrina, and Southeast Asia.

Japan is currently receiving the same level of media attention that Chile received in the wake of their magnitude 9 earthquake. Since Chile was less devastated than Haiti, it got no press. If Japan's nuclear reactor were actually going critical, we'd have been hearing about it nonstop for the past three days.

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From ABC news:

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Some Japanese plant workers, including former employees who are now miles away from the damaged nuclear reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant, say they are concerned about the health of their colleagues and the availability of equipment to keep them safe from the leaked radiation.

International nuclear experts believe that melted fuel in reactor No. 1 has caused a "localized criticality," which is a small, uncontrolled chain reaction that occasionally emits a burst of heat, radiation and a blue flash of light.

It is not a threat to the area at large, officials say, but could be deadly for workers.

One worker from inside the plant spoke anonymously about safety concerns such as not having enough radiation-detection devices available for workers.

The devices alert workers of too much exposure.

"Since the number of monitors is limited, only one or two devices are handed to each group," the worker said. "But sometimes you have to move away from that person and in that case you'll never know the level of your exposure."

He said workers are worried about their health.

"Some workers called it quits and just left for home," he said. "My gut feeling is that I want to get it over with and get out of here."

Officials at the Tokyo Electric Power Co., which operates the plant, said workers have had to work under harsh conditions.

They have since acknowledged the problem and promised more detection devices for their workers.

"They sleep on the floor, inside a conference room, or even in the hallway or in front of a bathroom," Kazuma Yokota, head of the Fukushima local office Japan's Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, said in a news conference.

"That's where they sleep, with only one blanket each to wrap themselves around."

Former plant workers living in a shelter just outside Tokyo, more than 100 miles away, told ABC News today that some people have been offered jobs to go back and help contain the leak.

"They're exchanging money with their lives," one worker said. "There may be people who will take the offer but it's not worth the risk."

Radioactivity in the water underneath the plant Thursday measured 10,000 times above the government standard. Earlier this week plutonium was also found in soil near the reactors.

Tokyo Electric Power said the company does not believe that any drinking water has been affected.Foreign Help on the Way

Radiation has also been found in tap water, milk and vegetables, which prompted the government to release a long list of banned food products from the region closest to the reactors.

Workers have been trying to restart the reactors' cooling systems since the 9.0-magnitude earthquake and tsunami on March 11.

Workers will soon have help from a U.S. company, as the world's largest concrete pumps are being shipped in from the United States.

They will first be used for spraying water from a greater distance than anything on site right now,and they might eventually be used to coat the reactors in cement and bury them for good.

Tokyo Electric Power said a remote-controlled robot being shipped from the the United States will also be used to check high radiation areas, according to the Associated Press.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/japan-nuclear-crisis-worker-speaks-radiation-dangers/story?id=13271759#

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Well its not as bad as people want to think - there will be no mushroom cloud as the material simply is not pure enough.

It does mean however that the release of radically longer decay isotopes are entering the atmosphere at a much greater rate. This is ungood in a way that goes far beyond the ungood of iodine 131.

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If any workers were exposed to an acute dose from any criticality from the fuel core, it would likely go off-scale of the dosimetry anyway.

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Müs wrote:
http://mitnse.com/

I've been looking here for infos.

That's a nice site, thanks.

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