The Glade 4.0

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But at least we are safe!

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

Today I learned that there's a wikipedia article for "Don't touch my junk"

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

The TSA should never have existed in the first place. Changing their practices isn't enough. It should be dismantled.

Wait... they have a "low risk" population? So wouldn't that mean they have a "high risk" population as well?

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

It's surprising what people will put other people through so they can feel "safe".

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Safety is staying away from motorized vehicles, which are the greatest cause of externally-caused death by far. Safety is not groping little children who obviously are not armed and dangerous.

12 and younger, modified pat down. 13 and over? Full on pat down. I deliberately didn't use the word "frisk" because I've been frisked and I've been patted down at the airport and they are different. I should get more action from the TSA than some chick that I gave $50 to for a lap dance. I would love to see the publicity of a 8th grader getting the full on grope.

The thing that really pisses me off is they the were denied a second screening and had to have the pat down. I was pretty sure it was either or?

after watching the "grope" video on the internet...

I do not get it, where was this groping? The TSA agent was explaining the whole process, made sure that the parent had full visibility to everything that was being done, and I saw no groping.

That said: I still do not think it is necessary to give any child a full pat down like that, but to call it groping is a bit disingenuous.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

While I think it is a waste of time for the most part, you have to think that if kids get a free pass, they are ideal to bring along with you when you decide to hijack the plane. They aren't going to check the kid. Put your boxcutters and whatever else on them.

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"I love this **** team right here."
-Jonathan Quick

They still get scanned...the grope...er, pat down, is just an extra check. I'm sorry but I think the entire process is a bunch of hogwash! I don't really need a bunch of inept assholes digging through my suitcase, putting my hair dryer, dress shoes, and curling iron into the same plastic bag as my liquids(which they weren't all in the same bag previously), as well as knocking the caps off of the liquids, so that they are all ruined and unusable when I reach my destination. Luckily my shoes survived for the wedding the next day, barely, but everything else had to be replaced.

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"Said I never had much use for one, never said I didn't know how to use one!"~ Matthew Quigley

"nothing like a little meow in bed at night" ~ Bruskey

"I gotta float my stick same as you" Hondo Lane

"Fill your hand you son of a *****!"

Yeah well I'm gonna save this post and rub it in your face when radicalized white toddlers start making our planes fall outta the sky you sympathizer!

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

On the other hand, do you really put it past some of these radicals to load a toddler up with weapons or a bomb?

Anyway, TSA needs to DIAF.

I will likely be pissy at that time, but give just about as little a crap as I did about the video of the groping.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Yes, it was. The TSA needs to prove who is in charge, to the parents so they can continue their little charade for the time being; most importantly, to the child, so they can continue it indefinitely.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

I remember reading news reports about babies wearing diapers stuffed with cocaine and other substances on planes. Its not much of a stretch to think that terrorists could put something on a child.
If airlines were not patting down children, (I did not see any groping), and something catastrophic happened due to something a child had carried on board a plane, people would be outraged that it wasn't caught beforehand.
You can't please everybody. In my mind, all the security precautions are annoying yes, and we like to gripe about them, but I'm glad they're there.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

Then you're free to go to an airline that has them.

Why am I not free to choose one that does not?

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Because when planes are hijacked, it doesn't just affect the lives of the people on board the plane. Your freedom to choose an airline that has a lower level screening process (or none) would also provide the means for a terrorist to bomb or otherwise destroy lives and people not even on the plane.

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

So why don't we have screenings for renting trucks, purchasing fertilizer, driving on highways, or parking near buildings?

In fact almost every time someone steps into public they should be screened because their actions could have an affect on the lives of others.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Cost-benefit analysis, that's why. The fact that we cannot take every conceiveable security step does not mean we should take none.

I'm not advocating necessarily for current practices, but the argument that we should take no security because we don't take it to an illogical extreme, or that because it is not perfect it therefore should not be attempted at all is just silly.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Silly American pig-dogs keeping bleach and ammonia right next to buckets in their grocery store! Mwahahahahaha jihad!

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill