The Glade 4.0

Was this just or not, in your opinion?

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Wow, you really are into the polcie threads as your new trolling technique, aren't you? 3 on the front page at one time!

There's nothing "just" or "unjust" to ask about here. We can't even understand what's going on at the beginning of the video... which suspiciously is cropped quite narrow so only what the cameraman wants can be seen. I've never seen a video camera in my life that normally films such a narrow field.

Not only that, but they seem to already know that the guy getting arrested "went to Princeton" (as if this is somehow is printed on his forehead, or as if it's even relevant). Not only that but the viewpoint swings away to look at someone doing who knows what down the street at random intervals, so we don't even get the narrow viewpoint of what's going on down there.

We also don't find out that "it's a joke" until red shirt guy says so at 4:30, and that's just his assertion, that "Everyone took it as a joke", because he can read minds.

It's pretty evident that they sent this guy out there to "make a joke", which we can't hear or see, and may have been a joke involving almost anything. Of course, the cop is initially not even going to arrest him, he's just going to issue a summons. It escalates all right; the subject escalates it by either not grasping that you argue a ticket in court, or because he's not going to be satisfied until he gets arrested in front of the camera by his buddy.

This video is no better than the one filmed by the British guy trying to imply a connection between DUI arrests in the U.S. and the Iraq war. I'm pretty certain you posted that one too - the one where the "narrator" couldn't even get the state right.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

DE you make so many assumptions in your post I don't even want to take the time to point them all out.

You assume the camera man is trying to hide something because you can't recognize the recording format of an ipod nano
You fail to correctly recognize what "the joke" is, and when it's revealed
You fail to realize that the person filming doesn't does in fact know the guy on the bike

I wont comment on the video but I found your long-written defensive post funny considering it was based on wrong assumptions. In fact, if you even took the time to read the video description, your entire post would likely be different.

Looks fine to me, the officers were even gentle with the yelling moron.

What was "the joke", Lenas?

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Ayup. Or an iPhone/new iPod touch. It's just being shot vertically rather than turning the device horizontally.

The reference to training wheels, so far as I can tell.

Yeah, I got it now. I thought it was one of the guys in the window at first, but it was the guy on the street who made the comment about riding on the sidewalk.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Excuse the **** out of me for not recognizing the format of every cool new gadget out there, since I don't mess around with gadgets like Ipods. Sorry I don't meet current standards of pointless gadget awareness. That also does not change the fact that the viewpoint was exceedingly narrow and a great deal is lost both to the field of view and to the idiotic commentary. And how do you know he was using an Ipod? It necessarily must be one?



No I don't. It's never "revealed" at all. I didn't hear any reference to "training wheels", and even if that was one thing that was said, how do you know that's "the joke"? Why would that be enough to get them out of their car? Because they're ******* cops looking to exercise their power? Then why do they only want to write a summons? "We just want to hassle some guy on a bike, who also just happens to be yelling at us for no apparent reason, but we don't want to hassle him too much so we'll only write him a ticket!"? Ok, sure.

More importantly, why is this guy antagonizing the cops to begin with? Right when this other guy just happens to be filming out the window?



Doesn't he? Then how does he claim to know he went to Princeton. He just happened to be filming out his window when his boy is out there yelling at the cops, but doesn't know the guy is on a bike? How did you establish that he didn't know this? He can only see what the Ipod shows? Or maybe he's just making up that this guy went to Princeton in order to make it sounds worse.



I find it hilarious that you think my post is somehow "defensive" and you're willing to leap to asusmptions about things that can't be seen or heard on the video in order to support it. That's ok though, anything people don't want to hear on this topic is now "defensive" or "taking it personally."

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Are you **** kidding me? Do you have ears on your head? Seriously. If you can't hear the audio (which is very easily heard), then you don't even have any business posting here.

The guy got ticketed and arrested for making a passing comment to another citizen on a sidewalk. He didn't even address the cop at first.

Listen to the audio and read the video description.



OH MY GOD. lol. The video isn't even about the guy on the bike. Also, the guy on the bike only says a few words in the video, and none of them are being yelled. He isn't even the one that tells the joke!

Why don't you just **** off, *******? Some of the audio is easily heard, some is not, and some is being talked over by the idiot with the camera. In any case, Mr. "Whaaa you make too many assumptions!", you're just assuming you know what the joke is, and what's going on. Vindicarre didn't hear it at first either. I guess anyone without your finely tuned awareness of Ipod video is just an ignoramus.



Bullshit. You have no idea who said what to whom.



Are you serious? Really? Can you get any more stupid? Damn, you are a **** idiot. You just got done claiming the guy filming didn't know the guy was on a bike even though he's right in the middle of the field of view. Your comment was so moronic I had to assume it was another guy on a bike because I didn't believe it was physically possible for you to be that dumb.

Now you come back and claim it's not about the guy on the bike? Well no **** sherlock! It was clearly about the guy that was getting arrested, and we never saw him on a bike! That's what I was saying in the first place.

Oh no, wait. I see you've gone back and changed doesn't to does. I'm sure now its my fault you said something completely the opposite of what you meant, not to mention that if the video isn't about the guy on the bike, why in the **** did you even bring him up?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Big surprise, cops don't **** listen.

Nah, Lenas he would have been ticked for some bullshit "disturbing the peace" infraction. He was arrested for being disorderly and obstructing.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Either way the cops shouldn't even have bothered him. He made a passing comment to someone, who wasn't the cop, that everyone except the cop took as a joke. Something about free speech should apply here.

Big surprise, morons leap to conclusions they like and gloss over inconvenient details about what they don't know when they have a video.



Except you don't know any of this. You're basing this on one line by him that may or may not be what caused them to approach him. If he was making a passing comment, how did they even hear him?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

If "disturbing the peace" is a "bullshit infraction" then the problem is with the legislature, not the cops.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

I never said that the laws in NYC were the cops fault. Nor did I say that disturbing the peace was a bullshit infraction.

If he were cited with disturbing the peace and not some other infraction it would have been bullshit in this instance, yes, because it did not rise to the level of NYC's "disturbing the peace", and the courts would have found that way.

Why you chose to respond to my comment is beyond me, DE; I wasn't even arguing with you.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

From the video, and reading the description, it appears the guy on the bike was visiting the guys with the camera. He rode the bike up on the sidewalk as he neared their apartment, which is against the law in NYC. The cops came up and were citing him a ticket, when a neighbor walked by and cracked a joke referring to him being a grown man and should know it was against the law.

The guy cracking the joke, continues to walk away, when the police get out of the van and yell at him to stop. Then they demand his I.D., and tell him they are issuing him a summons. He appears to get upset over this, and then the cops tell him they are taking him downtown.

Meanwhile, there is a drunk guy walking in the middle of the street that is pointed out.

At least that is what I understand from it.

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Disorderly Conduct- the citation for when they can't prove you did anything.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

I chose to respond to your comment because it sounded like you were saying that disturbing the peace was a bullshit infraction. If that's no what you were saying, fine. I didn't realize that I had to be arguing with you in order to respond to your comment; I didn't yell at you or take issue with you at all. Is there some inside joke going on to see how many people can get into an argument with me or something?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Do you even know what disorderly conduct laws say?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

They don't say anything. You have to read them. Which I have. I also have not only a CJ background, but a long line of PA/Military Police in my family. So yeah, DC is whats cited when the police realize they **** up and can't cite you with anything else. It's vague enough to be a great catch all for those pesky folks who "dare" question why they are being bothered.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Dude, obviously you have to read them. Did I really need to spell out "what do they say when you read them?" for you.



What is a CJ background, and why are you appealing to its authority? There is a reason, you know, that you can't skip the polcie academy or law school with a criminal justice degree.



That's nice. So what?



So no, you really have no idea what you're talking about, since they're nothing of the sort. The concept of "distrubing the peace" (specifically the King's Peace) has been around for hundreds of years before anything resembling a law enforcement officer or agency as we know them appeared.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

You seem to be operating on the assumption that we don't know everything that's going on in the video. We do, though. You can hear every word of relevant conversation, and you have a text description of events leading up to it.