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The opposition to the Happy Meal comes from the fact that it's advertised to kids and comes with a toy that makes the extremely unhealthy product appealing to kids, and therefore getting the kids to "force" the parents to buy it for them.

Some might object to my use of the word force. But while I don't have kids, whenever I see kids and parents in a battle of willpower in public, the kid wins more often than not. The exasperated parent eventually gives them what they want in order to preserve their sanity after an hour of screaming and crying and tantruming.


And the answer to this is to create a true Nanny State?

Instead of wasting our time with unenforceable laws, maybe some parenting clinics?


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The toy doesn't make the food appealing to kids, that type of food already is appealing to kids. The child didn't earn the money to buy the food, nor did they drive themselves to the restaurant to buy it.

The parents who let the kids "win" are displaying the results and continuation of and poor parenting.

As for the circumcision, my response to the gov't is, as usual, GTFO.

Those who are having difficulty with the whole male vs. female genital mutilation bit, anything that causes an infant to go into shock from the pain
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Van Howe (1996, p. 431) reported that, "Newborn males respond to circumcision with a marked reduction in oxygenation during the procedure, a cortisol surge, decreased wakefulness, increased vagal tone, and less interactions with their environment following the procedure..." Rhinehart (1999) in a report of clinical cases noted that the only response available to the infant is shock, wherein the central nervous system is overwhelmed by pain, followed by numbing, paralysis, and dissociation. Possibly, dissociation of the traumatic experience and emotional pain may be employed by the infant as a psychological defence (Chu & Dill, 1990; Noyes, 1977; Rhinehart, 1999). While some babies have been described as being "quiet" after circumcision, Rhinehart concluded that the observed stillness most likely represents a state of dissociation or shock in response to the overwhelming pain.


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Male Circumcision:Pain, Trauma and Psychosexual Sequelae

Watch this, then decide what you're willing to put your child through so their penis is easier to clean:

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Please, if you decide to have your son circumcised, insist on being in the room for the surgery, so you know what you're having done to the infant. Be a parent, be there when your child goes through this - don't wimp out.

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I can. But I don't want to have to wipe my piece every time I take a leak. I'm very much thankful I was circumcised. The less time I have to spend cleaning anything, the better.
Good thing you don't have to wipe yourself every time you piss if you're intact, then. It's just an extra 10 seconds of washing when you're taking a shower.

If you're getting urine under your foreskin when you piss you're doing it wrong...


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Random thought: I've never played with an intact penis. Girls, have you? (Or boys too, if you're into that?)

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I'd just like to say that hygiene isn't really an issue. My wiener is clean as a whistle, thanks.


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Great. Now I'm thinking about Lenas' weiner. Thanks a lot dude.

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Long as you're not thinking of using it like a whistle.

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Regular whistle, slide whistle, or kazoo?

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Slide whistle, I guess? Only in the sense that it requires two hands.


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Hopwin wrote:
Achievement unlocked: grossest thread ever.


Only because you don't like weiners. Or whistles. If this was about boobies this thread would be full of win.

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Only because you don't like weiners. Or whistles. If this was about boobies this thread would be full of win.

Not if the circumstances included slicing bits off them.

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Yeah, I kinda forgot about the OP...got distracted.

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Let's say it has no external value and is just a religious thing. Should we be legislating against it? So killing the children outright in the womb is okay in CA, but once they are out keep your hands off their foreskins? seems kinda messed up.

I'm not Jewish, and I certainly believe no flesh is justified by deeds of the law. However I think this is an attack on free expression of religion and the right to raise your children how you see fit. I'm not up on female circumcisions and how that relates in lifetime repercussions to male circumcision. So I'm not gonna comment on that.

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It does not prevent orgasm just makes it harder is my understanding. Orgasm can be triggered in many ways.



Double entendre notwithstanding, this would tend to make the average man last longer, which means they'd average "better"...

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Xequecal wrote:
Some might object to my use of the word force. But while I don't have kids, whenever I see kids and parents in a battle of willpower in public, the kid wins more often than not. The exasperated incompetent parent eventually gives them what they want in order to preserve their sanity after an hour of screaming and crying and tantruming.


Corrected, because any parent who's kids pull this stuff on them more than once in their lives (and even then, we're talking about the few seconds/minutes it takes to get them out of the restaurant and back into the car...not an hour) doesn't know what the **** they are doing.

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Xequecal wrote:
Some might object to my use of the word force. But while I don't have kids, whenever I see kids and parents in a battle of willpower in public, the kid wins more often than not. The exasperated incompetent parent eventually gives them what they want in order to preserve their sanity after an hour of screaming and crying and tantruming.


Corrected, because any parent who's kids pull this stuff on them more than once in their lives (and even then, we're talking about the few seconds/minutes it takes to get them out of the restaurant and back into the car...not an hour) doesn't know what the **** they are doing.


I'm going to go with this!

If you as a parent can not remove your disruly child from a situation such as that you shouldn't be a parent in the first place!

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On to the happy meals... take all kid menu stuff off. Offer a smaller meal for a reduced price. If parents feed it to their spawn, oh well.


Back when I worked at McDonalds in the early 2000s, there was a meal on the menu that was a hamburger(or cheese burger), a small fry and a small drink. I think they called it the all american value meal. 99% of the people that knew about this and ordered were senior citizens, though.

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Also, I'm cut. Uncut penises look even more gross than cut ones. So I'm pretty glad I'm cut. It makes me look slightly less repulsive.

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Well this is weird:


http://www.newser.com/story/105231/babies-foreskins-turned-into-beauty-products.html
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(NEWSER) – On the off chance you've ever wondered what happens to the leftover foreskins from babies' circumcisions, Christie Haskell at Cafe Mom has three words for you: "Penis wrinkle cream." Turns out the foreskin—"or more accurately, the fibroblasts from the cells of the foreskin"—can be turned into an array of skin byproducts such as a collagen, which is used in beauty care products. "Oprah's beloved SkinMedica product? Yup! Foreskins!"

But it's not all frivolous: Another use "is to create bio-skin grafts for burn victims and ulcers and other large-area open wound sites," Haskell writes. Also, cosmetic companies—which shell out thousands of dollars for a single foreskin because it can grow thousands of fibroblasts—test products on the resulting pseudo-skin rather than on animals. All this may complicate the debate over circumcision, but "there's got to be a good common ground somewhere," writes Haskell.

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A surgeon retires from his long career as a specialist in circumcision. Throughtout his career he has saved hundreds of foreskins as mementos and now wishes to turn them into a souvenir. He takes his specimens to a leathersmith and asks him to make something out of them.

A week later the surgeon returns and the leathersmith presents him with a wallet. "All those foreskins and you only made me a wallet?" exclaims the surgeon. The leathersmith replies, "Yes, but if you stroke it, it becomes a briefcase."

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Well this is weird:


http://www.newser.com/story/105231/babies-foreskins-turned-into-beauty-products.html
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(NEWSER) – On the off chance you've ever wondered what happens to the leftover foreskins from babies' circumcisions, Christie Haskell at Cafe Mom has three words for you: "Penis wrinkle cream." Turns out the foreskin—"or more accurately, the fibroblasts from the cells of the foreskin"—can be turned into an array of skin byproducts such as a collagen, which is used in beauty care products. "Oprah's beloved SkinMedica product? Yup! Foreskins!"

But it's not all frivolous: Another use "is to create bio-skin grafts for burn victims and ulcers and other large-area open wound sites," Haskell writes. Also, cosmetic companies—which shell out thousands of dollars for a single foreskin because it can grow thousands of fibroblasts—test products on the resulting pseudo-skin rather than on animals. All this may complicate the debate over circumcision, but "there's got to be a good common ground somewhere," writes Haskell.

This almost sounds like a roundabout way of delivering a money shot.

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Scree, there was a plotline in Nip Tuck where they made an best-selling face cream where the secret ingredient was sperm...I did think about that.
Not to go off on a tangent, but that article made me wonder if medical waste is really medical waste....I mean, aren't foreskins supposed to go in one of those big red bins with the warning labels on them?
It's kind of disturbing to think that medical waste ends up in cosmetics and junk. Good thing I don't wear makeup very often, nor do I ever use any of those alleged age-defying products.

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Wow. That Nip/Tuck episode sounds like it totally stole the idea from Liz Phair's song (NSFW lyrics).

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Scree, there was a plotline in Nip Tuck where they made an best-selling face cream where the secret ingredient was sperm...I did think about that.
Not to go off on a tangent, but that article made me wonder if medical waste is really medical waste....I mean, aren't foreskins supposed to go in one of those big red bins with the warning labels on them?
It's kind of disturbing to think that medical waste ends up in cosmetics and junk. Good thing I don't wear makeup very often, nor do I ever use any of those alleged age-defying products.

Well, for the record, I've never seen Nip/Tuck. Heck, I don't even really have cable anymore.

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Screeling, I watch it on Netflix.
Kaffis, I thought I like Liz Phair but that song is even more, uh, (what is the word because offensive/vile/filthy aren't fitting) than a lot of David Allen Coe songs. (NSFW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPNX9WBw1rs)

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