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When I was growing up, going shirtless for sports practice for the guys was pretty normal, we even played a lot of games (basketball mostly) shirts vs. skins. I guess that is pretty much forbidden in some schools anymore. Anyone figure out why?

Oh, and there has to be more than what's being said here.

http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-t ... team-goes-

We've all wanted to tell a jogger to put his shirt back on, but what happened recently in suburban Boston is a little different.

Westwood High track coach Tom Davis was fired last week because one of his runners decided to take his shirt off during training on a 75-degree day. This wasn't a girl, by the way. It was a boy.

And the Westwood High athletic director, Karl Fogel, was so irate about it that Davis thought he was going to lay him out.

"I fully 100 percent was expecting to be swung at," the coach told NECN TV.

That wasn't the end of it. Davis was let go on the spot, in front of his team, and eventually escorted off school property.

"The kids on my team, it was terrible," Davis told the TV station. "Their faces, just pure disgust, pure fear."

The team was doing quite well this year under the second-year coach: one of the relay teams went to nationals less than two months ago and the outdoor team started off 5-0 this spring. But there was an undercurrent of tension at the school as Fogel told Davis that some members of the girls team felt uncomfortable when the boys ran without shirts. Davis even warned his team about possible punishment for not wearing a shirt.

Then, a week ago Friday, the situation boiled over, with Fogel going chest to chest with the coach, according to the Boston Globe.

"I can assure you that [the] decision to relieve Mr. Davis of his duties was not the result of a single incident," said Westwood schools superintendant John Antonucci in a statement, "but rather the regrettable outcome of an ongoing discussion."

Now that ongoing discussion has ricocheted all over the community. Davis said he was never given an official reason for his firing, and he is seeking legal counsel.

The Westwood team lost its first meet without Davis on Monday. He was replaced by the school's throwing coach.

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**** this guy.

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Wasn't too worried about the fired guy. He obviously broke some rules and was fired for it. I'm more curious about the new custom of keeping the male athletes shirts on while practicing.

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Teenage guys have body esteem issues too sometimes. So I could see a rule not forcing student athletes to have to take their shirts off. However this seems a minor infraction for firing. This leads me to believe there is more to this issue than we are hearing: straws and camel backs if you will.

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But there was an undercurrent of tension at the school as Fogel told Davis that some members of the girls team felt uncomfortable when the boys ran without shirts.


Yeah, I just bet they felt uncomfortable. :roll: If they were anything like the girls at my high school, it was a matter of "wow, they look good without their shirts.. hey, wait.. they aren't supposed to make me feel that way! That's sexual harrassment!"

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I guess the next question is, what do they make the swim team practice in?

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Meh. This reads like a case of the administration not liking the coach and eventually finding something that they could fire him on as a technicality.


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Aizle wrote:
Meh. This reads like a case of the administration not liking the coach and eventually finding something that they could fire him on as a technicality.


I'd have to agree. As long as they cloak it with certain phrases it becomes almost unfightable

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If they make them take their shirts off - minor infraction.

Forcing them to keep their shirts on? Come on...

When I ran cross country they didn't have a whole lot of garb like underarmor and such. We typically ran in cotton. The shirts came off frequently. Hell, a lot of the girls ran in those sports bra things.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
If they make them take their shirts off - minor infraction.

Forcing them to keep their shirts on? Come on...

When I ran cross country they didn't have a whole lot of garb like underarmor and such. We typically ran in cotton. The shirts came off frequently. Hell, a lot of the girls ran in those sports bra things.

I don't think we even had sports bras when I was a kid. I may have done more than two years of track, in that case.

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Aethien wrote:
I don't think we even had sports bras when I was a kid. I may have done more than two years of track, in that case.


LOL. Nah, we're talking about serious athletes, not chicks jogging on the side of the road to keep their figure. We're talking sweaty, red-faced, hair messed up, no makeup... It's not as nice as you would suspect.


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I dunno, that look works for me sometimes. :D

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