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Which he seems to have done, and is in the process of doing. What is your point? It may very well take longer than what he initially had thought, and while that's disappointing, I hardly think it's an indictment of his character.



Which he did.

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Again, he may not be able to keep this promise. Again, I don't see how that's an indictment of his character. I would rather they be removed faster, and I'm sure *he* would rather they be removed faster. The reality may prevent that, it may not. If he cannot do what he said he would do, he should explain why.




And that may just happen. Or it may not. But we have to wait for an actual election to make that determination.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Montegue:

No, we don't. We can impeach Obama. The Pay Czar, General Motors, and Chrysler fiascoes are enough: he violated his oath of office.

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I'd just like to point out how sexiest I found this

Then I went and dug up the actual legislation and it's mainly about the time allowed to submit an application... so I am no longer offended.
K carry on...

You're correct. It is indictment of the character of those who believed the "promises" he spewed forth. But really, the fact that Obama was willing to promise so many wonderful and varied things that are far outside the scope of his office is an indictment of his character as well.

He made promises based on ignorance. He made promises based on what people wanted to hear. He was so caught up in the moment he forgot what he was campagining for. And once he got it, he has no idea what to do with it. I feel his "moments of political clarity" are few and far between, and only come about when he is told by his handlers what to do and say.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Congress is certainly able to attempt that. I would not hold my breath.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Montegue:

You still have not told me who was President in 1954, which incidentally was the first year since 1929 to post positive GDP as the BEA currently tracks it (in 1929 dollars). So, if a 25 year long economic downslide is decades of prosperity, Obama's on the right track.

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Why does everyone care so much about the automaker bailouts? Compared to everything else, that's chump change. He can spend several trillion bailing out banks and that's OK, but <$100 billion for the auto industry deserves impeachment?

Xeq,

It is not okay for the bank bailouts. I think many people are just too angry to form coherent thoughts regarding that subject.

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Darksiege
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First, I am under no obligation to answer every question you toss out there. I don't see how that individual is relevant. As for growth under the new deal, you are plainly and simply incorrect.



This is a chart tracking GDP from 1929-1941. You will see that growth only dipped during the years in which FDR *cut* New Deal programs under political pressure from Deficit hawks.

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Montegue:

Right, because somehow an out of context graph with no link to its original source substantiates your claim? According to that graph, the Great Depression was over in 1934? Too bad wages and employment didn't rebound until the 50s, right? Too bad Eisenhower had to make conscious efforts to balance budget? But, I guess FDR gets credit for the 50s, 60s, and 70s? Is that what you're claiming?

Employment as percentage of eligible population did not surpass 1929 levels until 1954.

GDP in 1929 dollars did not surpass 1929 levels until 1954.

Real growth did not return to the American economy until the Decade of Austerity.

Who was the President of the United States responsible for those policies, because it sure as hell was not FDR?

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Wasn't it Eisenhizzle?

And the chart... didn't we have a manufacturing boom as we supplied the Allies for WWII? So the dip in GDP makes sense as millions of people went from cushy jobs under the new deal to working in factories making things for the government...

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Holy shitsnacks!