The Glade 4.0

So Boeing is expanding and building a new plant in South Carolina, while still expanding in Washington, but done explicitly as to not be vulnerable to union strikes... Enter the labor board ordering Boeing to undo it's already one billion investment and do all its production in Washington.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/ ... rich-lowry

Yeah I will say it, **** union's economic dinosaurs that are not content until they have ruined whatever business they existed in.

Right to work states can only benefit from this. Seeing how the labor relations board acts, what company will want to start any new start up in a pro union state.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

Wow.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Let it have it's day in court?

Maybe if Obama keeps doing stupid stuff like this he'll actually loose the election in 2012

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

To which part?

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

All of it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

This is especially despicable since the issue was caused over a dispute where Boeing gave the union consideration and increased business even though it as not contractually required to do so.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Wow... atleast before you used to be able to pack up shop and move away...

Terrible...

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

This is a gross violation of interstate commerce clause.

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Memento Vivere

I have local knowledge.
That sandbar was not there yesterday!

Boeing has also hired more union workers and added additional lines at the existing assembly plants...

Apparently that isn't enough....

Shut them both down and move to Canada. Or Mexico.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

And then the libs get another line about evil corporations moving their companies away....to make a profit!

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

Libs are like goldfish, mouths always moving, nothing of substance coming out and usually can't tell that they are eating their own ****. Ie chuck schumer

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

I love how making a profit is always considered bad. I think I know another reason why the economy is tanking.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Please... anyone from the pro union stance please explain how this is a good thing for people? How is this is not a bunch of bullshit?

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Because without the unions, the little guy wouldn't have a chance against the big bad corporations.

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Holy shitsnacks!

The only people it's 'good' for are the people IN the unions, and that is only until the companies that employ them go out of business or move overseas because they can't compete here...

That's when they make legislation that stops the evil companies from doing trade abroad. That totally helps consumers and raises the standard of living for everyone. The economy is a zero-sum situation.

I was listening to NPR last week and, I think it was a pro-union state representative, stated that he straight up wanted to end "free trade."

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Jesus that is a partisan article.

I don't doubt it. Post the other side so we can assess from both angles.

Bring out the other side? I did not realize in Hellfire we are required to post conflicting views on the original post. Let's see the leftist side of this? "The evil company expanded in BOTH the union and non union area's! It has to be all union!!"

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

There aren't any requirements of anything. I'm just posting my opinion of the article.

Part of my annoyance with so obviously partisan reporting like that is I can't trust the commentary provided. There are very few facts listed in the article, so it makes it impossible to make up my own mind about the infomation, and requires me to have to go looking for alternate sources if I want to get a balanced view. That annoys me, because frankly I don't give a **** about Boeing or unions, and it takes what should have been a 5 minute read to educate myself of what's happening in the US into a much longer, painful and boring process. Which, being completely honest, I won't do because of the afore mentioned not giving a **** about Boeing or unions.

Fair enough.

Here's the other side:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/05/1 ... ng-vs-NLRB
That has even less fact and even more partisanship.

Here's a decent overview:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/b ... ton21.html

Boeing built the additional plant in SC because the worker in WA have gone on strike 4 times since 1989, and the company sought to maintain it's ability to function when the WA plant goes on strike.

Two 1965 U.S. Supreme Court cases affirm employers' right to consider potential strikes in making business decisions.

Seems as if Boeing was going to build 7 of their 787's a month in WA.

Then they announced that they are going to build 3 of their 787's in SC, in the process hiring 1000 more workers in SC.

They're still building the original 7 in WA and have hired 2000 more workers there.

NLRB say's Boeing can't go through with their plans because their plans are due to the strikes of unionized workers in the WA plant.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

So forcing Boeing to go to court for a nonsensical issue, and trying to intimidate other buisness that want to get away from the claws of unions.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

Subject: Someone tell me why unions are good for the country again?




This breaks down to they decided to do something that we were not required to do, the unions decided they wanted to be owners of the company and to guarantee that they would build no where else, so they said no. And when Boeing said no, the unions got all pissy, sucked some more governmental cock and got the recipient of their mad head binge to tell Boeing they have no choice in the matter...

Does anyone pro-union (on the Glade) actually support this action?

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut