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hawt, I am so loading EQ tonight, I have a ranger and a pally that are completely outdated that I want to see.

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Every station account in existence has 45 days of station pass time.

This means no matter what game you had subscribed to, or the status of the account (short of being banned) you can play any SOE property that is part of the station pass (EQ, EQ1, Vanguard, DC Universe (I think), etc..)...

Have at it =)
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I got 45 days on Vanguard... which is interesting because all I did was do a free trial years ago ;)

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Looks like they're giving away more stuff for the PSN as well (sorry if these details have already been already posted):

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/sony ... ames/12823

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Looks like they're giving away more stuff for the PSN as well (sorry if these details have already been already posted):

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/sony ... ames/12823

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Heh. I've always wanted to try SW:G maybe I should find a trial client. Not that I have time for anything like that right now.

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Hopwin wrote:
Vindicarre wrote:
Looks like they're giving away more stuff for the PSN as well (sorry if these details have already been already posted):

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/sony ... ames/12823

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Or maybe...

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http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011 ... omised.ars

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Just two days after the PlayStation Network was restored after a near month-long outage, the PSN password page has apparently been exploited. According to reports, the exploit allows other users to reset your account password using only your e-mail address and date of birth. This personal data was made available to hackers during the initial PSN attack.

The issue was first reported by Nyleveia, which was contacted by an unnamed source who reportedly performed the hack on a dummy account, prompting an e-mail message confirming that the password had been changed. Similar reports on gaming forum NeoGAF show an identical situation, in which the user provided the necessary information only to receive two subsequent e-mails: one claiming that someone was attempting to change the account's password and requesting the user click on a confirmation link, and another confirming that the password had been changed.

"I never clicked the confirmation link," the user wrote. "So yeah... my password was successfully changed by someone else."

Currently, users cannot sign in to PSN via websites like PlayStation.com. Instead, a message appears stating that the "server is currently down for maintenance." Meanwhile, a recent message on Sony Computer Entertainment Europe's Twitter feed reads "Fortunately we have got ISPs to release outstanding e-mails; unfortunately, a small amount of maintenance is required to improve this process." Followed soon after by "Clarification: this maintenance doesn't affect PSN on consoles, only the website you click through to from the password change email."

Nyleveia claims to have contacted SCEE directly after finding the exploit and that the system was taken down roughly 15 minutes after this happened.

Ars has contacted Sony for comment but has yet to hear back as of publication. We will update you as we learn more information.

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The issue was first reported by Nyleveia, which was contacted by an unnamed source who reportedly performed the hack on a dummy account, prompting an e-mail message confirming that the password had been changed.


ummm...
if it is as simple as just giving the DoB and email address... is that really a hack?

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It was a url exploit rather than a hack. The "good news" is that it was caught and fixed with no damage done.
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No damage? you mean except to further trash Sony's reputation?
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And I figured the context made it obvious what I meant. :p

Oh, and for a scary bit of perspective, you very well could lose that bet with Sasandra. :p. Something like 73% of online companies have been breached in the last 2 years...google has been breached, the US DoD has been breached, companies get hit for millions on nearly a daily basis and its only looking to get worse.
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Coren wrote:
And I figured the context made it obvious what I meant. :p

Oh, and for a scary bit of perspective, you very well could lose that bet with Sasandra. :p. Something like 73% of online companies have been breached in the last 2 years...google has been breached, the US DoD has been breached, companies get hit for millions on nearly a daily basis and its only looking to get worse.


Probably most of those were an XSS exploit that lets you print "hello world" on the page if you enter a specific URL. It's far different from database access with customer data being stolen.
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And I figured the context made it obvious what I meant. :p

Oh, and for a scary bit of perspective, you very well could lose that bet with Sasandra. :p. Something like 73% of online companies have been breached in the last 2 years...google has been breached, the US DoD has been breached, companies get hit for millions on nearly a daily basis and its only looking to get worse.



Online companies? 73% ? really ? care to substantiate this?

Are these companies who are providing online subscription based services in exchange for your credit card number? with a userbase the size of Sony? And was their entire primary customer database consisting of millions of international users compromised?
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65% of all statistics are made up, the other 82% are just exaggerated.

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Online companies? 73% ? really ? care to substantiate this?


Sure.

http://www.barracudalabs.com/wordpress/ ... lications/

From Panda Security:

". In January, the FBI began to investigate the theft of
more than $3million at a school in New York. In February
it was discovered that more than $3 million had been stolen
in a phishing attack. Incidents like these occur every day;
they are not exceptional cases."

From John Stewart, Vice President and Chief Security Officer, Cisco

“ Why do hackers succeed? They’re lucky, they’re patient, and they’re brilliant. They’re also better funded than you.”

"The challenge is that we need to block their exploits 100 percent of the time if we are to protect our networks and information. They can be right once; we have to be right all of the time."

From Kapersky:

“It could be said that 2010 was the ‘Year of the Vulnerability’, and 2011 only promises worse to come.“

From Sophmos:

"When analyzing the events and incidents of 2009, and those of the past decade, some clear trends and patterns emerge—few of which are encouraging."
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Still not sure where you got the 73% from.
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Still not sure where you got the 73% from.


It's in the headline of the link I posted right after I said "sure." :p
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Ah, didn't look at the link. Figured you had posted any relevant info.
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The only way to protect yourself it to keep an eye on your account and make sure nothing weird is going on. Net security has limits. It can never be completely secured. Even the DoD network has serious issues, and I should know...Saying a network is "maximally secure" means is that it's currently using the best practices/equipment and most up to date security features. That doesn't mean there isn't a zero day attack waiting to be used somewhere though, or an internal breach. Most security issues come from within. No system is impenetrable.

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The definition of "hacked" is very ambiguous. Like I stated before it could mean innocuous XSS holes. 73% of online companies did not lose substantial amounts of customer data to hackers. I would be very surprised if that was even 5%.
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Which is why I also added the Panda Security quote to show how often actual data/money loss happens.

The basic point is (to quote Bruce Schneier in regards to the PSN breach):

"It's another network break-in, it happens all of the time," he said. "This stuff happens a lot."

Beyond that, Wwen said it well.


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Which is why I also added the Panda Security quote to show how often actual data/money loss happens.


"Every day" is not a valid statistic here. I hope you are aware that there's more than a few hundred online businesses.
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Lex Luthor wrote:
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Which is why I also added the Panda Security quote to show how often actual data/money loss happens.


"Every day" is not a valid statistic here. I hope you are aware that there's more than a few hundred online businesses.


It's perfectly valid for the point I was making.
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Coren wrote:
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Which is why I also added the Panda Security quote to show how often actual data/money loss happens.


"Every day" is not a valid statistic here. I hope you are aware that there's more than a few hundred online businesses.


It's perfectly valid for the point I was making.


What point? That it's a common thing for Sony's data to be breached? This is like saying suicide is an every day thing because over one million people commit suicide each year (true statistic by the way).
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