The Glade 4.0

It hasn't been typical of my experience, no.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Got recruited by a friend, ended up buying a copy myself. Made a few defiant chars on Estrael shard.

I also tried Marksman, and was having difficulty kiting, due to all the mobs around. So I just picked up the Ranger soul. You don't have to put any points into it to get the pet. I also ended up putting some points into Bard, so that I can heal myself and the pet. I ended up liking that so much, that I rolled another rogue, specifically for Bard. I've basically resigned myself to having a leveling spec with Bard / MM/ Ranger, and I will switch to a more MM oriented build when I hit max lvl.

Marksman is godly for PVP, tho. At least at the lower lvls. My lvl 18 Bard/marksman was having a blast in the pvp warfront the other day. Lots of movement speed enhancers, 30 second Motiffs for the entire raid, a ranged-channeled DoT that heals the raid for 100% of the dmg done (that also gives 3 combo pts when fully channeled), and good ranged dmg / finishers from the marksman soul = good times. In one match, I lead in Kills and Killing Blows, and I joined the match when it was more than halfway done already. I don't expect that trend to continue, though.

Having a great time so far. Look me up if you're on Estrael (Defiant side):

Caleria ( Lvl 19 Bard / MM )
Nienna ( Lvl 7 2H Warrior )
Velarya ( Lvl 7 Bard )

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Oh, cool. I've got somebody to play my Defiant alts with on Estrael, then.

Maybe I'll get around to doing it sometime, then. My cleric's been like level 13 since week 2 or so.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

I have a defiant alt on Estreal as well. I wanna say it's a Warrior, but it's been a while since I've played it....

If memory serves, he's level 11 or so....

I'm sensing good times to be had.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Oh, and Caleria, just to be sure you noticed: if you're doing any long-term soul planning, keep in mind that your boar won't level up with you past 30. You need 24 points in ranger to get the greater razorbeast that will go beyond level 30.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Yea, I'm leaning more towards a leveling/questing/grinding spec that is heavy on ranger for the pet tank, and a seperate dps/raid spec. Still not sure if the 2nd one will be more MM or Ranger based. I'm pretty sure, it will include some elements of each, though. The 31-pt marksman ability, plus the close quarters combat talent look awesome. On the other hand, I'm hearing really good things about the blood raptor pet, and some of the dmg buffs in ranger look excellent. Shadow Fire (+35% ability dmg for 25 secs) and the Beastial Fury talent (100% chance for a 5% dmg increase for you and your pet for 12 secs when you use Head Shot) look particularly nice.

I'm actually thinking about this for my dps build. I picked Nightblade for the nice 15% dmg bonus to combo abilities and finishers. Also, apparently Hellfire blades works with ranged weapons, as does the Melted Skin proc talent. Plus I get Marksman's pedestal along with some nice passives, while still getting all the goodies from the Ranger soul.

I've still got a long way to go, though, so I'll have plenty of time to decide.

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"I Live, I Love, I Slay, and I Am Content."
- Conan the Barbarian

Kairtane, level 40 ranger/bard/MM is on the Defiant side of Estrael also.

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Ranger/Bard/whatever is an ungodly solo spec.

Finally uninstalled WoW after not playing for a few months.

I snagged the trial of this game today. I must say its pretty cool so far. I think I'm going to take advantage of the steam sale & snag this.

Is there any cohesive glade group/guild on any one server? I saw a few of you mentioned the Defiant side of Estrael.

I don't think there is any official gathering of Gladers in Rift.

My main characters are on Estrael as Guardian. a 39 Ranger/Marksman (Midgen) and a 32 Druid/Shaman (Kirah). Both are unguilded and pretty much play solo. I have a couple of mostly unplayed alts on both sides. I've never leveled on the Defiant side, so I can't give you any comparison about which experience might be better...

Kaffis also has chracters on that shard, although I haven't seen him lately (at least not on the characters I know about).

I think everyone else is pretty much spread out....

Soooo....

I'm rapidly approaching level 40 on my Rogue, and just realized I am well short of having enough plat to buy the new mount.

Anyone have any tips to raise some quick cash?

I've not done much with the AH. I have gathering skills, but tend to hoard supplies instead of selling them.

I guess I could start by cleaning out some of the excess I have stashed :p

Do you pvp in warfronts at all? There is a lvl 40 mount you can buy with Favor.

I hear ya, as far as cash goes. I think I was 45 on my first toon before I could afford the lvl 40 mount. The pvp one required faction (from a lvl 50 warfront!?) and favor at the time; now it's favor only).
I don't know any great ways to make money. I usually go grind on some pve trash and make sure I loot everything for the coin and vendor food. This still only seems to net me ~3 to 5 plat an hour.

No PVP for me. In fact, I killed a defiant player today, more or less against my better judgement. He forced the issue by continually attacking quest NPC's I needed in scarwood. He would wait until just before someone was about to do a turn in, then attack.... I watched him do this three times to lower level players... The third time, he was at low health after killing th NPC's and I finished him off.

This was offically my first ever player kill in any game.

I really dont enjoy PVP at all.. and today's encounter just confirmed it.

As far as the plat goes, I have probably 18pp or so.. I made 6p just doing some questing and selling vendor trash. If I spend some time tomorrow going through the bank and selling some extra stacks of cloth and leather, I should be able to raise enough fairly soon...

I'm a fan of player run justice. It's a great equalizer.

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Well, he was griefing, no question about it. he was level 37, grefing lower levels (30-35 or so)... I was level 39, and just happened to be there working on an achievement, and turning in an old quest I had neglected.

I didn't want the situation to escalate, so I was happy when he didn't res back at his corpse and continue to press the issue (I guess he summoned his corpse back to the graveyard)....

I just wanted him to go away :p~~

Check the AH and get a handle on the prices for your gathered materials. Servers vary, but higher tier ore or bars tend to sell well, as do skins, while cloth can be iffy (silk seems pretty solid on my server, but the higher stuff often goes for less than vender prices). Plants and bones/teeth prolly are a good bet too for potion makers...especially wyvernspur or drakesfoot.

If you have an outfitter, everyone loves silk bags or better.

Lots of cotton for sale on my server, but I think the market is flooded, and nobody's buying.

These are my thoughts at least, I'm looking at getting mounts for 2 of my characters right now, and cutting off my lower level crafters' allowances :p

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Thanks Colphax,

I went through a couple of bags of stuff and checked prices on the AH.

I'm in the high 30's so the highest level gathered stuff I have access to sell is Heavy Hide and Cobalt, and not much of either. I have a ton of Thick Hide's and Chromium Ore to sell, which is probably by best income source. I put a few stacks of each up for sale last night. I need to figure out if they sell better after conversion to Bars/Leather or not.

I also had a couple of bags of green gear that had dropped from the rares I had been hunting doing the Kain Hunt quests. Unfortunately the market was flooded with that stuff. It was all priced at just a couple of gold higher than a vendor would would pay for it so I didn't bother trying to squeeze that stuff in.

One of the reasons I'm low on funds is that I have been funding an outfitting, apothacary, and weaponsmithing. Doing the daily's for all three of those, when the crafters level is slightly above the level of the gatherer's has kinda sapped my funds. Up until now, I didn't have a lot of reason to hoard plat, so I spent it rather freely. Now I'm regretting it. :p

Does anyone know if (generally speaking) there is good demand for crafted items? I would think consumables (potions, etc...) might sell well. What about weapons and armor? Is it worth crafting stuff and putting it up for sale? Or is the market saturated for that stuff?

Bags, and Consumables are the best bets for AH sales from crafted items.

I have done Armorsmithing and I would not recommend it unless you are willing to put a lot of time into grinding factions in various zones. The majority of what you can make is comparable to trash drops or quest rewards. The good stuff requires grinding various factions for blue or purple recipes and then you need all the rares to make the stuff.

If yer really hurtin for money try sellin some of those blue artifacts you can get from the daily quest for the golden dragon eggshell bits. I've sold a couple for 10-20 plat each.

Money also kinda comes pretty easy in the higher level zones just from gatherin trash from the stuff you kill and dumpin it on vendors. Was sittin on about 100 plat not too long after playing in IPP/Stillmoor/Shimmer.

I've found that every once in a while, I can fill an unserved hole on the AH with some mark-bought rune recipes. For the most part, though, the rune market seems pretty saturated and pretty cut-throat when it comes to pricing. I might be able to make some money there by surfing the AH for ages to snatch up some dirt-cheap enough green items to break down for materials cheap enough to compete with the pricing on some of the stuff that's well-trafficked, but I'd much rather just scan the listings to see if people haven't been listing one of the dozen or so things I've noticed tend to get overlooked somewhat, and if I can list them without competition to undercut me viciously, the demand is such that it'll support decent prices (75g-3p, generally, depending on the rune). So I sell maybe 2 or 3 items a week that way, and it helps offset the lost cash I forgo by runebreaking everything for dailies, and then a little bit on top of that.

I could afford a l40 mount at 41, but looked at what it took to get there, and the fact that 2 of the 3 other guys in my regular group wouldn't be able to afford one, and opted to just wait for 50.

In any event, for Guardians on Estrael, I'm happy to runecraft to order in exchange for greens of comparable level to the requested runes. I find that 3 greens for a rune is enough to keep my stocks from dwindling, or we could work out a gold price if that's preferable. I've got a master runecrafter and all the mark-bought recipes. Still fighting my luck on plaques, though. =/

As for being on, Midgen -- Tues/Weds are my playnights with my regular group on Kesla. Other nights are kind of as the mood takes me, and I've had a few other things distracting me in the last week, week and a half.

In any event, for the Estraelis out there, Guardian side I'm Kesla and Delltri; Defiant side I've got Wyssi.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Yeah, I've had a similar experience with both armorsmithing, weaponsmithing, and artificing. Lots of cool faction recipes that are usually useless to the character crafting them, as by the time they have raised the faction necessary to get the recipe, they have far outleveled the items usefulness.

As far as consumables go, I see a lot of demand for health and manna potions and tonics, but I mentioned wyvernspur and drakesfoot for a reason...they are bottleneck materials that apothecaries need for lots of recipes and never have enough of, making them quite lucrative. My apothecary character is literally stalled atm because he needs drakesfoot seeds or stems to level, and none of my characters are able to safely gather in the zones where drakesfoot is right now.

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Women are from Hoboken, men are from Trenton. ~ Jimmy Kimmel

Actually, this is pretty good advice. If any of the raw mats for apothecary are going to sell well, it'll be stuff like this.

As for selling apothecary consumables on the AH? I'm on the fence on that one. Maybe at the high-end, the non-basic stuff will sell to people looking to squeeze effectiveness into their raiding or something, but in my experience thus far, I've not seen a strong market for the buff serums and such mid-level, and the basic consumables like health/mana pots and tonics get their demand satisfied (and marketable price capped) by the NPC potion vendors. *grumble*

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

AH selling sucks so far. I looted my first purple item off a random mob a few days ago. I researched the level and rarity of it, found comparable items on the AH, set my price a few plat less than what I thought it was worth, and I still havent sold it. I've looted blues as well and still havent sold them. And I usually undercut anyone else selling the same item.

I make most of my money selling trash to vendors. Those items that sell for a couple gold each add up over time. Plus all the cloth. I got tired of waiting for people to buy it off the AH so I just sell to vendors. 50 silk sells for what, almost 50 gold?

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Do they have AA points in this game like in EQ2? Or does everyone at the same level have equal potential?