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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 6:00 pm 
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Corolinth wrote:
The curious thing about a group like Anonymous is that they are not composed entirely of internet script kiddies. There are people within the organization - and I use that word very loosely - who are truly talented individuals. The best and brightest will end up getting recruited by major companies for a variety of technical positions. It shouldn't be a surprise, as it has happened before. This, ultimately, will prove to be their undoing.

When the crackdown does occur, those wielding the hammer will be the very individuals that the best and brightest of Anonymous would become fifteen years from now after working in a department with an actual budget, on projects with actual scopes and deadlines. What currently protects groups like Anonymous and Lulzsec isn't their skill, or anything about their organizational structure, but rather the fact that they are a small time nuisance rather than a real threat. When that changes, they're going to discover how little protection the veil of internet anonymity actually affords them.


Catching people who are behind proxies is extremely difficult, although I agree 95% of them are just script kiddies. I would be very surprised if even half of them got caught, no matter what they "hack".


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I'm hoping that someone with more technical knowledge than me can help answer this question. How hard is it to hide your identity/location when hacking a website? If you're really good at covering your tracks or whatever, can you make it impossible to find you?


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Amanar wrote:
I'm hoping that someone with more technical knowledge than me can help answer this question. How hard is it to hide your identity/location when hacking a website? If you're really good at covering your tracks or whatever, can you make it impossible to find you?


It's pretty easy to hide your identity using proxies. At the very minimum, it's extremely difficult for them to find you unless you do something dumb (like logging into your gmail while hacking). You also need a web browser with cleared cookies, cache, no extensions, etc. A vanilla one.

If you have control over a botnet, especially of computers infected with your malware, it is virtually impossible for them.


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At the very least, I'm looking forward to people with simplistic views like Lex getting disabused of the notion of how protected they are.

Wait, does that make me the anti-Anonymous?

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Corolinth wrote:
Considering the controversy over Julian Assange, and how the U.S. is still harassing him (or pressuring various European countries to harass him), I strongly suspect that within the next five years we will see the emergence of legislation to regulate the internet, citing "cyber terrorism" as the necessity.

It's an almost certainty, I think.

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Corolinth wrote:
Considering the controversy over Julian Assange, and how the U.S. is still harassing him (or pressuring various European countries to harass him), I strongly suspect that within the next five years we will see the emergence of legislation to regulate the internet, citing "cyber terrorism" as the necessity.


I highly doubt it. It can't be regulated at this point. Maybe in 2005 or earlier or something, but right now it's too late.

It's never too late for the government to **** things up. Just because your imagination is limited doesn't mean they can't: add requirements that have prohibitive costs or make it a terrorist act or enable a firewall like China or god know what else.

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
At the very least, I'm looking forward to people with simplistic views like Lex getting disabused of the notion of how protected they are.
At this point in American history, it should be noted that we no longer have any of the Constitutional protections originally outlined in the Bill of Rights.

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It should also be noted that since public electronic media started, the trend has been more towards people being less censored and controlled by central figures.


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Wwen wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
Corolinth wrote:
Considering the controversy over Julian Assange, and how the U.S. is still harassing him (or pressuring various European countries to harass him), I strongly suspect that within the next five years we will see the emergence of legislation to regulate the internet, citing "cyber terrorism" as the necessity.


I highly doubt it. It can't be regulated at this point. Maybe in 2005 or earlier or something, but right now it's too late.

It's never too late for the government to **** things up. Just because your imagination is limited doesn't mean they can't: add requirements that have prohibitive costs or make it a terrorist act or enable a firewall like China or god know what else.


Can't you stop? None of you can **** stop...

I don't understand...

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http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/ ... e-lulzsec/

Other hacker groups getting in on it.

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More police action against suspected Anonymous affiliates.

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