The Glade 4.0

Sasha Grey even starred in the show Entourage, she's about as mainstream as Jenna Jameson.

What is it you compromise when someone wants an arm and a leg? Your arm? Your leg?

Sometimes "no" is the only answer you can respond with when faced with a false dilemma.

I have more invested than most here in "business as usual" when it comes to the entitlement fiasco our social services position has put us, and I'm in the camp that wants to let a default happen if the leaders of our country can't get it through their heads that they need to figure out how to cope with no income...

...just like the poor folks that haven't worked lately.

It's about jobs, damnit!

They've had long enough, so any BS about what will happen in the long run is pure conjecture. I can conjecture too...they won't change. If you don't draw a line in the sand, they'll never stop spending like it isn't their money.

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In time, this too shall pass.

More jobs will make our problems worse.

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K thx

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Could you elaborate please? More government or propped up "green jobs" being bad I would understand, but the actual economy picking up demand which meant more hiring is also bad? If so how?

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

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Seriously, you weren't paying attention the last 2 or 3 times I made 2500 word posts explaining the over-employment correction?

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Spending = Votes. Free healthcare for all, TARP and so on.
Making cuts = unpopular.

Obama is trying to stay out of it an appear to be the "adult in the room". The reality is any adults will need to make tough choices and make unpopular decisions no matter which way you lean. So, Obama is ***** out just as he did as senator and presidential candidate, snipe from the sidelines.

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

I am a sporadic visitor, usually a thread starter. Probably it was in a thread, or a section of thread I missed.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

http://www.breitbart.tv/carney-admits-w ... -on-paper/

but the president does not want to put the plan on paper...it might be politically charged.

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

F-ing ridiculous.

I laughed.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

http://www.breitbart.tv/abcs-tapper-bri ... to-corner/

This Carney guy is a tool/

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Holy shitsnacks!

It's easy to post 2500 words about over-employment when you aren't spending your time looking for a job...or a meal.

If you can afford to sit back with academic detachment and pontificate you're too far removed to understand. It doesn't matter how the employment situation affects wages or influences the GDP when you're relying on others to feed your family, then hear them bloviate how they shouldn't have to pay those taxes.

I'd rather have lower wages than high unemployment. If people working for a living offends you, hole up on your island and cut the cable...and eat cake.

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In time, this too shall pass.

Aizle:
Just heard Lawrence O'Donnell say he'd heard from a participant, in regard to the negotiation between Boehner and Obama, that when Beohner and Obama had finished negotiating for the day on the deal that contained $800 billion in revenue (through tax reform), and $2 trillion in spending cuts, Obama heard Senate Democrats complaints, then left a message on Boehner's voicemail saying he needed $400 million more revenue in a deliberate effort to poison the negotiations because the D's were so upset.

It amazes me that the media can so completely spin the realities of the brazen bullshit that goes on in Washington.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Of course, if this is true, then at least we know Obama is actually trying to do the right thing and is just being held back by the Democrats in Congress.

You really have no clue do you? Maybe if you'd read the posts, you'd understand my position instead of fabricating a straw-man. After all, it would make sense to know what I've argued before starting a rant right?

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If that's how you want to look at it. I guess if the President can't stand up to, not to mention, rally his own party, that's pretty telling.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Ok some one a bit better versed in Economics then me.

"How bad would deflation be?" I have almost never sen or heard about, inflation constantly (probably because that is the Fed's policy). The effects of inflation are pretty visible, but is deflation such a disaster as to be avoided at all costs? Would it even be a bit therapeutic for a nation suffering from high inflation to contract a bit? Arguments for/against?

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

I read this post -

Is this your position or not?

Now, seems you think there are either already enough jobs or even perhaps there are too many for the situation as it stands. I strongly disagree, and think someone stating such is blind to the needs of those unemployed folks who would gladly work to provide for their families.

We need to put the people to work that want jobs, regardless of the effect it might have on any other facet of the current economic situation. Play all you want with the other variables but employment needs to increase.

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In time, this too shall pass.

More jobs will make our problems worse.

I'll let you sit down and figure out why you're having a hard time accepting that cold, hard fact. If you can't, I'll tell you once you've bought a dictionary.

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If they are meaningful jobs, then it would help the economy because they are doing good work, hence supporting and advancing society. You can play with numbers all you want, but if more people are being productive then the economy is inherently better.

Your cold hard fact being pronounced in stentorian tones from your gilded tower, or a 2500 word manifesto, either one, ignore the "our" in that statement, which is why, exactly, you are out of touch.

If you want to work and don't have a job, exactly how will more jobs make things worse, o noble seer? You have nowhere to go but up if you don't have a job.

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In time, this too shall pass.

Taskiss:

Really? Nowhere to go but up? You weren't very good at arithmetic were you? Did you pass economics?

I've explained this dozens of time before; I've explained it tersely; I've explained it in great detail with more links than I care to fish for at this exact moment in time.

More jobs will make our situation worse.

Our ...

That's actually a collective pronoun by the way. That includes you; it includes me; it even includes the guy without a job who's starving in the gutter somewhere.

More jobs will make our situation worse.

And you still don't get what's wrong with your position in this thread.

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How do you reconcile that position with the one that we don't need any government handouts? You've just stated that it would be bad for the currently unemployed to have jobs, in fact you've stated in the past that we still have too many jobs. So what, in your view, are these people supposed to do? Just die and get out of the way? Because I don't see that going any other way if you don't give them a handout and don't give them a job.

You know, if there weren't so many people it wouldn't be a problem. Maybe the answer is not taxing or spending; maybe we should work on people reduction...

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