The Glade 4.0

Really? I'd like some numbers on that ...

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There is innocent until proven guilty, and then there is "a restaurant full of people watching a 16 year old hold a gun and demand money from a Mcdonald's employee"

There isn't going to be a trial for the dead criminal, so there will never be a chance to call him guilty. I don't think the news media would be doing anything wrong by headlining "Armed robber shot..." instead of "Teen robbery suspect..."

IMHO, calling him a robbery suspect is political correctness gone haywire.

To follow: When googling this story, I am finding headlines calling him a "suspect" along with many that simply call him "robber"

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This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

They open themselves up to libel if they just say armed robber. Just because everyone knows he/she is guilty you can't say it unless he/she is convicted.

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What about in a case (such as this one) where there will be no trial for the dead criminal?

Who gets to call him guilty? Or is there some legal "process" where he is proven guilty?

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This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

Me! Guilty guilty guilty! *bangs gavel*

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

Off with his head!

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Yeah!

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

That's not how defamation works.

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I'm thinking of all the cases were there is a significant amount of media coverage, which makes the whole jury selection and trial process significantly more difficult than it already is. I'd be curious to see numbers on it as well.

I suspect your suspicions are unsupported. There are very, very few cases in this country where media coverage plays any role in jury selection or administration.

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Perhaps one or two a decade that are just too huge (Simpson, Anthony), but that's a drop in the bucket. Honestly though if you study both of those cases I think the powers that be tried very hard to make sure all the attention didn't color their proceedings.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

1- this entire thread has gone stupid. As in all around stupid.
2- TheRiov has unintentionally gone awesome in this thread. I completely support his unintended consequence... When responding to an armed threat: ALWAYS shoot the target in the head. Not only will it prevent any unwanted "I'm dying" retaliation fire, but it also protects others when the inevitable Zombie apocalypse occurs. Remember people... Doubletap.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

It seems like zombies are the new Nazis these days.

Godwins!

Zombie Nazi's? Nazi Zombies?

What what percentage of potential jurors are dismissed during voir dire for foreknowledge of the case?

Probably lots, but that's why we have a weeding out process? A weeding out process that weeds out people, what's this world coming to.

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Zomzies!

Khross claimed that there were very very few where it plays any role. I 'm not suggesting that mistrials result--I suspect the number of mistrials due to media coverage is very very small as Khross states, but we dont hear about the people dismissed in voir dire because the system is working 'as intended' but it still plays a role.

This is basically what I'm getting at. I have to imagine that the jury selection process is much more costly and difficult based on media coverage. Similarly, I've certainly heard a lot of lawyers comment that their client can't get a fair trial because of bias, etc. Now of course some of that is just good lawyer speak, but I'm sure there is some amount of it happening as well.

I'm also sure it's almost impossible to quantify.

I FINALLY watched that movie last night.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

I wonder how much the suspects family will be awarded in the civil suit?

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

That +libel +whatever McDonald's throws at them to get it out of the news = off welfare for a year or two.

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You have just introduced a new villain for my Infinite Worlds PCs.

Thanks

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Holy shitsnacks!

Let's not go there. I have a better idea. Since he was a minor can child services declare them unfit parents and take their other children.

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