The Glade 4.0

Tripped across this today, figured it would be interesting to see the folks reaction here.



Spoilered for size.

Not bad from a broad-brush perspective.

Fairly accurate if a bit generalized, as any left versus right chart would be.

I think political compass is a far better metric on how real people think, as it works in two axis.

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If the left wants personal freedom, why are they usually against gun rights while the right isn't?

No, that's not accurate at all. The breakdown of American politics has nothing to do with any sort of ideas regarding how the government should operate. We are divided purely by political skin color, and there is no other "want" but to promote one's own political race. People who are blue want policies and laws that were proposed by other people who are blue, and likewise people who are red want policies and laws that originate from other red people.

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The left can be summarized most generally as "society first". The left does believe in gun rights as a collective right. Individual ownership is unnecessary since society will protect you. In fact, society is actually better off, in general, if you aren't armed.

The right can be most generally summarized as "individual first". You'd better be prepared to defend yourself.

What's you opinion of this "poster" thingy, Aizle?

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Again that's generally true. A great many people claim to be dems or reps but when given a party free issues test score rather different. My polictical compass score is far different than the last two red Presidents and I'm not afraid to say so.

Again that's not everyone.

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I can't help but notice that on both sides, the same sex marriage isn't even above 50%. That kinda boggles my mind...but in a way, it kinda makes sense because the majority of blacks and mexicans oppose same sex marriage.

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I think it's because blacks and mexicans tend to be less educated, so they hold onto older ideas instead of looking forward progressively.

I think it does a fair job at highlighting what the talking heads of each of the 2 major parties spout and is a decent generalization.

The issue with generalizations that people often seem to forget is that generalizations ONLY apply to groups, they don't apply to individuals.

What's your opinion?

I think this poster does a fantastic job of charaterizing what those power want us to believe about the choices those they keep in the dark think they make and the things they think they believe in.

In reality, there is no Blue or Red... only Purple, and that poster? It's just a few more lines of code in the Matrix.

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I wish I was in a purple haze right now.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Gay marriage isn't about religion. That's an excuse. People crap on gay marriage because they find the idea of two guys having sex to be horrifically disgusting, and think that by keeping it out of the mainstream they won't have to deal with it in their daily lives. That's why people oppose gay marriage. It's not a conservative or liberal thing. They don't want to live next to Adam and Steve and watch them be a happy married couple, because it repulses them. That's also why they don't want gays to adopt, because they think that since it sickens and repulses them, it will do the same to the children.

In the countries where homosexual conduct itself is still illegal, why do you think male gay sex is generally punished so much more harshly than female gay sex? It's because the world is ruled by guys, and guys don't find lesbians disgusting like they do gays.

I think this poster is a pretty dramatic (or maybe blatant is a better word?) demonstration of what is wrong with American politics...

Can you expound on that?

It's completely dumb.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

I thought I'd ask an open question instead of diving into overt critique: based solely on language selection in the graphic - which way do we think the graphic's creator leans?

As to the way I'd answer that question, I'll just say look at the part that discusses familial relations. The family on the left is based on respect and trust. The family on the right is based on respect and fear, to the exclusion of trust. Rinse and repeat throughout the entire graphic.

So after looking at it that way, I decided to go find the author. It's by self-described "left-leaning journalistic type" David McCandless (with help from Stefanie Posavec). It also bears mentioning, I think, that he's British. Maybe it means he's more objective, maybe it means he lacks an innate sense of things he's probably only read about and not lived in the midst of. I dunno. I just mention it because the graphic seems to be more a depiction about perceptions of the concept of "left" and "right" (it's not like they can be objectively defined), and those perceptions are unavoidably skewed by, well, everyone's personal set of lenses.

McCandless wrote:

The image in the OP was created in 2009, while the graphic that attempts to be more balanced was created in July 2010. Do you think he did a better job the next time around? Here's the new(er) one:

And since the link in the quote tag isn't all that visibly evident, here's a plain link to the page he made for the 1.5 version of the graphic. It includes a side-by-side of the two graphics, but that's so big there's no point even attempting to embed it here.

Then why are more people for "gay rights" than "gay marriage"

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Ha! In the original post I loved the left and hated the right. In the 1.5 version I love the right and hate the left. I can't quite put my finger on why.

My father was a staunch Democrat and one of his favorite quotes was ""It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both".

I was never quite sure how that figured into his personal beliefs, but he never "spoiled the child", so to speak.

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Only speaking for myself, marriage is a religious ceremony. I'm waiting for the lawsuits against any NY church who wont marry a homosexual couple. It really does come down to the governments role in sanctioning the contract between two consenting adults. Can the government tell an individual that they cannot enter into a contract with another?

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What about a church that wants the ability to marry gay couples, but cannot due to government interference?

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Works the same way, Gov't shouldn't be involved in marriage.

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Actually, since churches have tax exempt status, and marriage is recognized by the state as a legal arrangement, churches shouldn't be allowed to perform them at all.

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