The Glade 4.0

If my wife were the sort of woman to ***** to her friends about what an *** I am for not making sure the toilet seat is always down so she can rush to the bathroom at the last possible second on a regular basis, she probably would have OTHER personality issues that would have made me not marry her. Similarly, if she were incapable of checking the status of the seat in the middle of the night and somehow blamed this on me.

Contrary to popular belief, you do not need to cave in to a woman's every pet peeve in order to live with her. Thankfully, one of my wife's pet peeves is not the toilet anyhow so I never had to deal with it.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Mainly because it's not about "caring for the person you live with" or "making her life easier. This is the first time I've ever heard the "it's harder to get my clothes off!" argument, or the "my urethra is **** up" argument. Really.. don't wait until you're about to explode to have to go pee. Don't give me this crap about how hard it is with your physiology or because you've had kids either. Plenty of women have had kids, and don't seem to experience these urgency issues.

If YOU PERSONALLY have issues that make it mandatory that the toilet seat be ready for instant use, fine, but that does not make that a matter of "caring for other human beings" for everyone else. "Caring for human beings" falls more in line with not making a huge stink over your personal bathroom arrangements.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

This solution would quickly lead me to be believe that this woman doesn't need a nickle more of my money spent on or with her, as she doesn't seem to respect the things I spend it on.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Don't sweat the petty stuff, and don't pet the sweaty stuff.

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Holy shitsnacks!

What's funny is that I prefer the seat down, too. I have had to make an urgent (or even not-so-urgent) trip and not looked at the seat because I was busy clenching. And it's gross to almost fall into a toilet. Sorry, guys, it's just passive-aggressive. It's not that hard to put the seat down when you're done. Now, if I can just get my six-year-old to put the seat up, that'd be cool.

I have no advice on training. My wife is still working on me, and always will be. And vice versa, of course.

Congrats, Lyd, hope this goes well for you.

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Is all I`ll ever know
So when you get to heaven
May the devil be the judge

That right there is a good way to end up with a separation.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Only if the guy has a pair. This one didn't.

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"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Just so you know ...

Short of spontaneously dumping the guy five minutes after you start going out, this is the fast way to find yourself single and undatable.

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Or a good way to find that you do in fact have a slutty friend that will do your SO.

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

Thanks. Now I have to clean coffee out of my keyboard.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

For what its worth as resident liberal hippy euro scum....

Toilet seat has never been an issue - with multiple partners - and I've never made an effort to leave it one way or another

Dirty clothes I do occasionally dump on the floor, but I always pick up and deposit in the hamper n ext morning (oops, I was drunk!) - its just rude to expect someone else to clean up after you.

My dishwasher does the washing, not me.

I separate colours... when I do the laundry. No complaints yet.

I am accused of having an iron stomach. I eat anything .Any time. Girl thinks Im slightly mutant.

1. Toilet seat - Phe doesn't care, neither do I.

II. Dirty clothes - Generally, I'm the one nattering on about putting them in the hamper.

C. Dishwasher - Given my druthers, I generally hand-wash and let that be it. But as above, what kind of rubbish dishwasher do you have that requires dishwashing before dishwashing?

*. I will wash ALL THE COLORS! I'm mindful of stuffs that I know/think will bleed, but other than that, eff it. For the longest time, we had a washing machine that didn't do "hot" or "cold" just "warm," so it's not really a habit now. Also, generally, I wash my clothes, Phe washes her own. Not in a "you must do it yourself!" kind of way for either of us, just that we each know our own clothes' quirks better than the other. Hers are quirkier than mine.

Orange. Leftovers - I'll admit, not a fan. Dunno why, but I'd vastly prefer to just make something to eat than heat up leftovers in the microwave (unless said leftovers are from some kind of amazing super-delicious dinner). 'Sokay, Phe generally eats leftovers, and so they make for good lunches or something the next day.

That's the thing. It's not passive-aggressive at all. Passive aggressive would be purposefully not doing it in spite (or because) of being asked. That's not what any of us are talking about.

What we're saying is that it A) is not necessary to "train" your SO to meet your personal desires and B) that you really shouldn't need to ask to have the toilet seat left down in the first place, unless you have some sort of ongoing issue that makes it absolutely essential. Waiting to go until you're about to explode or not wanting to stop on the way home to take a leak are not "issues" either.

If you do insist on asking to have the toilet seat left down, then sure, your SO should try to remember that, but if they forget occasionally, or even forget a lot, it really should not rise above the level of the most trivial inconvenience to you. It certainly is not cause for nagging, bemoaning his boorishness to your friends, the silent treatment, withholding sex, or really anything more than a very occasional reminder, delivered in a non-confrontational, preferably very casual, tone.

To give a similar example, I prefer for my wife to park far enough to the left in the garage that I can easily get out of the truck. However, she frequently doesn't remember this and pulls in close enough that I have to squeeze to get in and out. I don't find it necessary to bring this up every time it happens, or even on a weekly or monthly basis because I recognize that not criticizing your significant other is of far greater long term value than convenience getting out of the truck, or the position of the toilet seat.

Yes, it's passive-aggressive to purposefully ignore a minor preference of your spouse. On the other hand it's outright aggressive to give them a hard time, or denigrate them in front of others, if changing their habit takes a long time.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Passive aggression would be my first suggestion in the thread.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Kinky

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Holy shitsnacks!

First of all, there's only a subset of guys where this is possible.



If anything, this will have the opposite effect. Don't nag. Don't EVER nag.



Come on. Did you think that would work?



All of this is kind of silly IMO.

Want to solve the problem? It's easy (if the personality is right). Have it be HIS solution. Tell him you don't like the messy laundry bit, and could he please design and construct a solution that will solve the problem.

Not rinsing dishes? You can try the above, but I suspect this is hopeless. If you're getting them to the sink and / or dishwasher at all, consider yourself lucky.

Inability to separate delicates when doing the washing. Dude! He's doing the washing. Congrats. If you're worried about YOUR delicates, place them somewhere else, like in a different hamper, and tell him never to wash those.

Leaving the toilet seat up. That's your problem. Having to raise it is as difficult as having to lower it. Do you raise it everytime you're finished?

Not eating leftovers. Does he work for a living? If he makes decent money, and that's his vice, then don't serve him leftovers.

In short - the woman needs as much training as the guy. You aren't going to get everything your way.

But, as always, identify the problem, find solutions that will work with those involved (not your solution and then try to force him into it), and implement. When no solution is possible, give up - for the sake of tranquility.

I put the toilet seat down. But I also close the lid. Every time. And I've never heard a lady complain about the lid being down in the history of my being alive.

Close the damn lid after using the toilet, directed to any lady that does not do this! Fair is fair.

However, it's been my observation that a lot of women say they want to be treated equal, but deep down it's not true. Personally, I'm fine with that.

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Les Zombis et les Loups-Garous!

Back to original topic: I don't know how. I've been told that my son's SO will house train him.

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I have local knowledge.
That sandbar was not there yesterday!

Oh, for the love of God, don't get one of those fussy toilet seat covers. There's two problems with this. First, cloth soaks up piss. So those things have to be nasty. Second, they often are too thick and when you put the toilet seat up, it only stays up long enough for you to unzip and start doing your business before it falls down. As it falls, it deflects your stream and makes a mess.

Not to mention makes a hell of a lot of noise in the middle of the night.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Solution:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000KJZ13C/?tag=047-20

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Duty is a magnificent blessing because it is the sign of trust from the universe.
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I don't normally care if the toilet seat is up. I fell in one time in the dark, but we have a nightlight now. As long as the toilet is clean it isn't a big deal. I just put it down. I prefer the toilet closed entirely cause of the cute invitiness of the soft plush cover saying. " You know you want to **** in me."

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ultimate guardians of their own liberty."- Thomas Jefferson

"Yeah, I'm rehearsing my poker face. I don't handle stupid well. *sigh*" - Farsky

Motion sensitive battery powered LED's.

http://www.amazon.com/Beams-MB-723-Batt ... 117&sr=8-3

Ooh battery powered nightlights. I need some for my stairs.

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They are really good.

Only two issues is they are a tad bright. I ended up putting a piece of paper over them to diffuse the light a bit. And the adhesive that comes with them isn't worth crap.

The sensor is pretty sensitive, and there is no way to adjust the timer on them, but I don't find it a problem.

I haven't had them long enough to discuss battery life...

I have them in the hallway between my master bedroom and master bath so I don't have to turn on room light for night time potty breaks. I put mine about a foot off the floor. No need to have them shining in your face =)