The Glade 4.0

Yeah, one way or the other a bar is private property and the gubmint should **** off.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Even when it is the gubmint's place to ban smoking, they can still **** off.

So the community college I work at has been trying to ban smoking on campus for at least ten years (and likely longer). They finally succeeded sometime around 2009-2010. It went in stages. First it was no smoking within a certain distance of the doors that led into buildings. A year later, it was no smoking within a certain distance of the campus proper.

That would be fine, except nobody enforces it! They passed the ban simply to toot their horns about how hip, modern, and health conscience they are. I walk into the math and science building, and there's the same couple of people sitting right outside the door smoking like nothing ever happened. Only now, the ashtrays have been removed from campus so there are cigarette butts all over the **** place. At least when it was no smoking within 50 feet of the doors (or whatever it was), they had those little plastic doohickies to drop a cigarette in. People smoked near those, and if you didn't want to be around cigarette smoke, you stayed away from them.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

I love the law of unintended consequences. Not only do people ignore the smoking ban, it increases the fire hazard to boot.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Probably most would, mostly because the business world doesn't like change.

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You are aware of the differences between the products and services offered in, say, 1750 and today, correct?

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Okay, the business world doesn't like change we can believe in. Is that better?

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

So you believe they wouldn't change it because they are lethargic and not for any other reason?

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Do you have any examples of this?


Anyway, as I understand it here in MD - the smoking ban has been good or irrelevent for business. I'm sure there's some negative impacts in places.

I don't really see the justification for such bans. If a bar owner wants a smoking establishment, he should be free to have one. Ok, if you want him to post a sign on the door to warn unsuspecting non-smokers... fine.

That said, this apparently has encouraged a lot of people to quit and/or not take up the habit. That's good, I guess.

For what it's worth, my understanding of smoking bans is that they are (generally speaking) mildly to moderately beneficial for restaurants with a significant portion of revenue in food service, and seriously detrimental to bars with little or no portion of revenue in food service.

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"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades