The Glade 4.0

violent.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1




I mean all we hear from the MSM and is how violent the Tea Party is. How they are going to start comitting all kinds of acts of violence if they don't get their way. This new story, to go along with Hoffa's recent war, take them out, and sons of ***** speech(right before Obama gave his Labor Day speech which he did not and continues to not comdemn...which is hilarious if you take into account his whole "civil tone" he asked for when that chick was shot) really should just jump out at the folks who are on the fence politically.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

What could possibly go wrong with cutting brake lines on railway cars.

ALL the natives are revolting.

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In time, this too shall pass.

Yea, Unions are great as long as it's MY union and not YOURS!

Unions are not special interest groups, but corporations are.

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"...the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?" -Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

And the head of that union is sitting with Mrs OBama for tonight's speech

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"Life isn't divided into genres. It's a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you're lucky."
— Alan Moore

I'm pretty sure trumpka has his own office in the WH.

Not much, cutting the brake lines on a train applies the brakes permanently.

Corporations are expected to act like sociopaths, but for some reason unions are supposed to be honest and upright.

And that makes it all okay. If this were TEA Party members, I'd be all over deploring the violence.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Yeah it actually sort of does. This isn't a "two wrongs make a right" thing, it's people believing that when a corporation acts in an unethical manner, that this is a good thing. It's expected. They're supposed to act like that. But for some reason, unions are supposed to be different. It makes no sense.

On the other board we have the thread about Jiffy Lube. They're pulling a massive scam on their customers and nobody cares. We expect our car mechanics to attempt to commit outright fraud against us for profit. But we're supposed to be outraged when a union engages in similar behavior?

I didn't say it was a good thing, I just said it's not a "more government isn't the answer thing. Also I'm not sure if the two are comparable.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Labor unions and the Tea Party aren't really comparable either.

I'm willing to concede that point. There still the whole issue of not being able to deplore violence/wrongdoing by your chosen sacred cows. I'm willing to at least slightly acknowledge it when Republicans, Tea partiers, Nintendo, anyone really does wrong. Are you truly saying there is nothing wrong with the behavior described in the OT?

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

From a purely ethical standpoint, it's very wrong. What corporations do is also wrong.

However, this is completely irrelevant. Ethics have no place in the business world. The only thing that matters in business is how much money you can make. Corporations will do whatever it takes to make the most money for their shareholders, and unions will do whatever it takes to make the most money for their members. If they don't, they will be quickly outcompeted and replaced by those that do. Expecting anything else is just naive.

Are you seriously conflating actual physical violence with cost cutting?

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

I was going to say...

Fraud isn't exactly in the same realm as violence and hostage taking.

I don't expect corporations to make the most profit by storming their competitors buildings and taking hostages.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

Here's also something to consider. I can quite easily not shop at Jiffy Lube if I want to condone their actions in a meaningful way. I don't and there are a 5 competitors within half a mile of their store.

I'd have to look awful long and awful hard to find something that hasn't been unloaded by union longshoreman. It's also not abundantly obvious what is and isn't.

Who is the monopoly abuser here?

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Dude seriously?

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Darksiege
Traveller, Calé, Whisperer
Lead me not into temptation; for I know a shortcut

When the bottom line is the stockholders dividends, having ethics can get you fired.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

You have to work within the economic framework you are legislated. Also, speak you your allegations of an ethics crisis.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

Cue Heath ledgers speech as the joker....

I don't know about your area, but around me we don't tolerate that behavior from companies. And like has been said, i can take my business elsewhere. Unions however seem to get a pass no matter what or are so insulated from repercussions that its pointless to try.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

I'll give you a choice: A 50% pay cut, or an ass-beating. Which would you rather have?

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

NSFW - Language

Longshoreman union member is rather upset at being interviewed

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“Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general”. - Mark Rippetoe

May you rot in Hell, Ethics and Honesty is the foundation of what I've based my business on. If I quote a job and the final comes in under quote I charge for actual, not quoted.
I started my business 10 years ago. I used very specific and targeted advertising to get going for the first 2.5 years. I haven't paid for any advertising (other than business cards) since. I live and thrive on referrals.

Ethics go a long way in the world.

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.