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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:13 am 
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http://www.mrctv.org/videos/newt-gingri ... uestioning


Newt has no chance, way too much baggage to be taken seriously...but I love the way he responded to the biased moderators who can't seem to ask a question without framing it in the most accusatory, attacking way possible.

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So what did everyone think? How many have decided on a candidate, who is it, and why?

Frankly, I don't like any of the candidates. I'm pretty happy with some of them on particular issues, but overall they suck. I'm pretty solidly conservative on a number of issues, but what I'm struggling with most is my views on the environment. I am a strong environmentalist and this conflicts with a lot of their platforms.

I hate to become a 1-issue voter, but I really cannot get excited by these folks.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:19 am 
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I'm going with the left's strategy from last year. Anyone but Obama.

If I could get some kind of morph of Paul, Perry, Cain and Newt, I'd be happy.

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Same thing I did last time, unless something drastic happens. Paul in the Primary, then bend over and take whatever luke warm moderate cold fish emerges from the pile over Obama.

Frankly though I'm more concerned of dealing with Obama's rubber stamp in the Senate, Sharrod Brown, and seeing what happens with my district. (Jordan for Senate! Jim, not Micheal)

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If I could get some kind of morph of Paul, Perry, Cain and Newt, I'd be happy.


If I saw that monstrocity walking down the street I would immediately grab my pitchfork.


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I like Newt. Other than that, kinda blech.


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http://www.naturalnews.com/033528_Ron_P ... paign.html

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MSNBC distorts post-debate poll results to falsely depict Ron Paul as just barely winning

(NaturalNews) A post-debate poll shown on MSNBC.com reveals Ron Paul to be the landslide winner of the internet survey, capturing 43.5% of the votes on the question, "Who do you think won the Republican debate at the Reagan library?"

The next closest candidate, Mitt Romney, received just 21.5% of the votes, or almost exactly half the number of votes received by Ron Paul. You might expect Mitt Romney's graph bar, therefore, to be half the size of Ron Paul's right? Nope. These poll results, it turns out, have been radically distorted to diminish the apparent lead of Ron Paul in the poll.




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The nation needs predictability now. I'll vote for whatever candidate is the most boring, predictable bastard running.

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The last thing anybody in Washington or the media (liberals and conservatives alike) wants is for Ron Paul to **** up their control over the country.

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Honestly, while Paul is totally ignored by the media, I'd guess this particular slight was more a problem of page coding than malice on the part of MSNBC.

Plus, it seems to be fixed now, as well as showing an even greater lead for Paul.


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That's still a terrible graph, 'Skeee. 52% isn't even twice as long a bar as 16%...

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I enjoyed this...

http://pajamasmedia.com/rogerlsimon/201 ... spin-room/

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It goes without saying too that Paul won the Internet polls immediately after the debate. What Internet poll has Paul not won? (Who will win the US Open? Ron Paul 88%, Novak Djokovic 12%.)

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Paul is the only one that's tolerable really. Too bad the media despises him.

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Same thing I did last time, unless something drastic happens. Paul in the Primary, then bend over and take whatever luke warm moderate cold fish emerges from the pile over Obama.

Frankly though I'm more concerned of dealing with Obama's rubber stamp in the Senate, Sharrod Brown, and seeing what happens with my district. (Jordan for Senate! Jim, not Micheal)

Wow +1 on both counts.

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LOL that graph is hilarious. It needs a 'NOT TO SCALE' disclaimer stamped on the front of it...


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Newt does something like that and I'm glad he's there. Then he'll do or say something completely idiotic though.

Whoever emerges out of Perry and Romney I suppose. I'd like a Paul Ryan or Christie in there, maybe as VP, but whatever.

Romney is pragmatic enough to be predictable. I like that Perry has some balls and is not backing down on the Social Security is a Ponzi scheme thing, because he's right and everyone knows it.

I actually like Huntsmans tax simplification plan, a lot, but beyond that eh.

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Paul is the only one that's tolerable really. Too bad the media despises him.

And thus he won't win.

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politicians are all bullshit. I will vote for the one my quarter tells me to.

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I'll vote for whoever promises more blood for the blood god!

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Hop, I'm really hoping my Rep will run for Senate if the Republican Establishment makes good on their threat to ax our district for his insolence during the debt ceiling debate. It would serve the establishment right after that little bit of bull. If it were to come down to him vs. Brown, he'd have the credentials of not being a party shill, and Brown couldn't say the same.

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Really, why don't we have "None of the above" on the ballot.

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we do. It's called "low voter turnout."

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reading threads here and other sites I have to wonder, why does anyone give a **** who the vice president is? A man with minimal power (can cast a deciding vote in the senate) other than that his job his to attend events in place of the president., IE: attend funerals
Biden has his opened mouth enough times that he most likely won't be on the ticket for the next election.
the last election everyone's attention got diverted to Palin not McPain.
The Vice president only comes in to play as a tie breaker in the senate, or the death of the President. very small concerns with the imbalance of power in the senate, and the level of security around the president.
Seriously the last VP to step into power was Ford, when Nixon resigned.
If a recall correctly Ford was the only elevated VP to win a reelection as president, again (IFRC: he was running against McGovern=fruit-loop)

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For a President, having a crappy VP is like assassination insurance.


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