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Hopwin, my guess is that itvwould go to insured and bonded couriers.

I would guess you are right but the laws would all need to be revised which makes me giggle (I deal with those assholes a lot).

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It's an essential line of communication durring a domestic invasion when power, almost certainly, would be shut down.



I have to say, if there is a domestic invasion which causes a loss of power on any large scale, do you think the mail will still go through?

1)Consider how dependant the USPS is on devices that run on electricity. Sorting machines, computers, hell the lights in the room. If there were to be that level of disruption, has the USPS shown that they would somehow adapt and overcome?
2) Any sort of domestic invasion that would cause a loss of power, do you think the USPS workers would come in and start running mail still?
3) Do you think that in the case of a large scale power outage, the USPS is equipped to manually sort, transport and deliver the mail, and do you think that they have employees who are trained in, and capable of this task?


My answers are no, and oddly enough today has underscored the outdated nature of the USPS. I've been expecting packages all week. All of them were shipped from the same geographical area in the US and listed shipped on the same day. Two boxes were via FedEx- came early, tracking numbers provided gave me a clear indication where they were and that I could expect them earlier then promised. One box was via UPS. Came a day earlier then promised, tracking number gave me a rough idea where it was in it's route. One item was able to be shipped via USPS regular mail. Came at the promised time. Last package- via USPS. Tracking number provided tells me it's not even in my State yet. Was supposed to be here last Wednesday. "Customer Service" at the USPS can't tell me anything I can't see via the package tracker.

I'd like to say this is isolated, but anytime I recieve anything that isn't a letter via USPS it's usually a week later than it's supposed to be. So the USPS could go away tomorrow and I'd be quite happy, and unaffected.

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And you're being mean for no reason. Please keep me ignored forever, I don't want to talk to you.


Don't lose sleep over it, man. Bullies will always exist.

If the USPS was dismantled, that network would be lost forever. It would take a shit-ton of money to get it going again.

Communication is a national security issue, and as such the government must ensure that effective transit of hard-copy materials is available. If it were solely a private network, I fear it would end up like the distribution of power, and be publicly governed and privately owned. That might be better than what we have now, but it can't just be private.

What if UPS and FEDEX sold out to China?


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You need to understand Rynar's perspective. In libertarian-land, at any moment the U.S. could become like post-apocalyptic Mad Max, which is why you need to stock up on your guns and supplies, and fortify your property. Only the Post Office will deliver our mail since all privatized institutions will have collapsed.


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What if UPS and FEDEX sold out to China?


LOL seriously?

Our Federal Government (and thus all of us by proxy) owes it's soul to China... Why worry about private enterprise?


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Meh. As it stands, we could always flip them the bird and say "come collect".

If they owned our communication operations, that would suck.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
And you're being mean for no reason. Please keep me ignored forever, I don't want to talk to you.


Don't lose sleep over it, man. Bullies will always exist.


Oh c'mon... seriously?

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I'm guessing it's needed as a means of communication if in libertarian-land all power gets shut down.


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If the USPS was dismantled, that network would be lost forever. It would take a shit-ton of money to get it going again.

Communication is a national security issue, and as such the government must ensure that effective transit of hard-copy materials is available. If it were solely a private network, I fear it would end up like the distribution of power, and be publicly governed and privately owned. That might be better than what we have now, but it can't just be private.

What if UPS and FEDEX sold out to China?


This is exactly my point.

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You need to understand Rynar's perspective. In libertarian-land, at any moment the U.S. could become like post-apocalyptic Mad Max, which is why you need to stock up on your guns and supplies, and fortify your property. Only the Post Office will deliver our mail since all privatized institutions will have collapsed.

Lol at "The Postman," but don't let Rynar color what libertarians think. Freedom to do stuff and paranoia are not the same.

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Wwen wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
You need to understand Rynar's perspective. In libertarian-land, at any moment the U.S. could become like post-apocalyptic Mad Max, which is why you need to stock up on your guns and supplies, and fortify your property. Only the Post Office will deliver our mail since all privatized institutions will have collapsed.

Lol at "The Postman," but don't let Rynar color what libertarians think. Freedom to do stuff and paranoia are not the same.


The most die-hard libertarians overlap with the survivalist crowd, and they jump at the chance to relate anything to a doomsday scenario.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
Wwen wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
You need to understand Rynar's perspective. In libertarian-land, at any moment the U.S. could become like post-apocalyptic Mad Max, which is why you need to stock up on your guns and supplies, and fortify your property. Only the Post Office will deliver our mail since all privatized institutions will have collapsed.

Lol at "The Postman," but don't let Rynar color what libertarians think. Freedom to do stuff and paranoia are not the same.


The most die-hard libertarians overlap with the survivalist crowd, and they jump at the chance to relate anything to a doomsday scenario.


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I don't think you guys understand what a troll is sometimes.

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Wwen wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
You need to understand Rynar's perspective. In libertarian-land, at any moment the U.S. could become like post-apocalyptic Mad Max, which is why you need to stock up on your guns and supplies, and fortify your property. Only the Post Office will deliver our mail since all privatized institutions will have collapsed.

Lol at "The Postman," but don't let Rynar color what libertarians think. Freedom to do stuff and paranoia are not the same.


Gee Whiz, Wwen... How do people like Rynar color that analysis? Are we bad? What makes us bad?

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