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 Post subject: RIP Steve Jobs
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:42 pm 
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Wow. Rest in peace. Thank you for the incredible gifts you've given us. May Apple do your memory proud.


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Wow! Not unexpected, but still...

Rest in peace!

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I bet he's been cryogenically frozen.

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An excerpt from a commencement address Steve Jobs gave in 2005:

Steve Jobs wrote:
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.

Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.

I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.

This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:

No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.


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RIP Mr. Jobs, you were my age. You're setting a bad example for longevity, but at least you lived your life well.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Steve Jobs
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I'm not surprised.

It's sad that he's gone and kind of poignant that he's passing at such a time that the American Capitalist is under such hatred and attack.

I want to see if I can find movie that was made about him now and watch it again in tribute.

It seems Google Video has the whole thing if anyone would like to join me.

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FarSky wrote:
An excerpt from a commencement address Steve Jobs gave in 2005:

Steve Jobs wrote:
When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.

Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

About a year ago I was diagnosed with cancer. I had a scan at 7:30 in the morning, and it clearly showed a tumor on my pancreas. I didn't even know what a pancreas was. The doctors told me this was almost certainly a type of cancer that is incurable, and that I should expect to live no longer than three to six months. My doctor advised me to go home and get my affairs in order, which is doctor's code for prepare to die. It means to try to tell your kids everything you thought you'd have the next 10 years to tell them in just a few months. It means to make sure everything is buttoned up so that it will be as easy as possible for your family. It means to say your goodbyes.

I lived with that diagnosis all day. Later that evening I had a biopsy, where they stuck an endoscope down my throat, through my stomach and into my intestines, put a needle into my pancreas and got a few cells from the tumor. I was sedated, but my wife, who was there, told me that when they viewed the cells under a microscope the doctors started crying because it turned out to be a very rare form of pancreatic cancer that is curable with surgery. I had the surgery and I'm fine now.

This was the closest I've been to facing death, and I hope it's the closest I get for a few more decades. Having lived through it, I can now say this to you with a bit more certainty than when death was a useful but purely intellectual concept:

No one wants to die. Even people who want to go to heaven don't want to die to get there. And yet death is the destination we all share. No one has ever escaped it. And that is as it should be, because Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long from now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away. Sorry to be so dramatic, but it is quite true.

Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma — which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary.


Amen.

I wish that more people would read this and take it to heart.

RIP Mr Jobs


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Thanks for sharing that quote, Farsky. It was awesome.

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Holy crap.

Mr. Jobs, I hope by the time the rest of us get to where you are, you've worked out all the proprietary bullshit.

You did some awesome **** while you were here.

RIP.


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RIP.


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They took our Jobs :(

RIP

One of the best executives we've seen in a while.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
One of the best executives we've seen in a while.


I am not a big Apple fan, but I am a fan of Steve Jobs. It's not often to find someone with that much charisma and forward thinking, and is not paid in a pure PR/Marketing roll.

He was indeed the face and figurehead of Apple. Major corporations would kill to have someone like him.

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I would say he is one of the most historically significant people of the early 21st century. And in a very positive way.


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Bill Gates is certainly this era's Thomas Edison, which would make Steve Jobs the Nikola Tesla of the late 20th century.

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Corolinth wrote:
Bill Gates is certainly this era's Thomas Edison, which would make Steve Jobs the Nikola Tesla of the late 20th century.


Apple has the highest market capitalization of any company right now.


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Ugh.. Seriously? Thomas Edison?

The news this morning was comparing him to Edison and Einstein.

I mean no disrespect, but those comparisons are ludicrous..


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Midgen wrote:
Ugh.. Seriously? Thomas Edison?

The news this morning was comparing him to Edison and Einstein.

I mean no disrespect, but those comparisons are ludicrous..


Well he does have hundreds of patents...


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Edison didn't invent anything, he just stole patents and ideas from the people who did. That's exactly how Bill Gates made his fortune. Specifically, he stole from Tesla, just like Gates stole from Jobs. Frankly, if you think the personal computer has less societal importance than the lightbulb, you're a complete loon.

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Corolinth wrote:
Edison didn't invent anything, he just stole patents and ideas from the people who did. That's exactly how Bill Gates made his fortune. Specifically, he stole from Tesla, just like Gates stole from Jobs. Frankly, if you think the personal computer has less societal importance than the lightbulb, you're a complete loon.


This.

Consumer electronics as we know them today would be (I believe) radically different without Jobs' influence. He's pretty much been dictating market standards from his imagination for almost the last decade.


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Corolinth wrote:
Edison didn't invent anything, he just stole patents and ideas from the people who did. That's exactly how Bill Gates made his fortune. Specifically, he stole from Tesla, just like Gates stole from Jobs.


Gates also stole DOS, don't forget about that, and negotiated contracts so that IBM would use his DOS and not the original. (IIRC)


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Edison stole from more people than Tesla. That comparison is rock solid, right down to the sheer volume of people who are totally unaware that both men made their fortunes as nothing more than thieves.

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The evil free market rivalry between Gates and Jobs, and later others, fueled the technology spurt we have had in the last 30 years. He may or may not be Edison, but his work and the desire of evil capitalists like him to make evil profits like him, is responsible for all of us being able to be here today.

watch the link I provided or read Fire in the Valley sometime. The big companies and banks were not interested in computers for normal people until Jobs came on the scene.

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