The Glade 4.0

Not directed at anyone or even any current conversation here. Just found this and thought I'd share.



edit: Irony thy name is typo

I dunno... I've been coming here for years and am often left with the impression that claims of success are dramatically over stated.

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Ezekiel 23:19-20 

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

Kill the weak and eat them?

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Isn't every living thing on earth the result of billions of years worth of evolution?

I'm content just being at the top of the food chain. Other than that, I've got nothing to prove.

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In time, this too shall pass.

See! I *knew* you were a time traveler from 1995!

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

OMG U GUYZ DID U KNOE HAMPSTERS CAN DANCE?

It's weird; I was just thinking about hamsterdance the other day. I was trying to think of what the oldest internet meme was. "Ate my balls" was the oldest one I could think of.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

All your base.

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Holy shitsnacks!

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"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." Jesus of Nazareth

Dancing banana's - developed near the current peak of humanity slightly before the ultimate achievement of humanity - jumping pink ponies.

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Nah. The first Ate My Balls page was 1996. AYB was a SA meme from around 2000-ish. Peanut Butter Jelly Time was one of the early flash-based memes. Probably hatched from Newgrounds, then, and the use of Flash (and full audio) dates it to no sooner than the early post-56k era. That also makes it probably younger than AYB, which pretty much ran its initial course as pure animated gifs.

Dancing Baby is seriously old. I'm not sure if it's older than Ate My Balls, though.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Dancing Baby is Ally McBeal era. I know because it was on her show about 6 months after.

Fairly certain the oldest internet mere is indeed, "Hello, World!"

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That doesn't count because it predates the Internet.

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More or less, yeah. The Ally McBeal appearance started in 1998, but that's still surprisingly early in its life-cycle. These days, appearing on a TV show is almost a certain sign of memetic old age. It's kind of interesting, now that I think about it. This might actually make good supporting evidence that TV writers/execs really are getting even more out of touch.
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Mmm, not really. ARPANET was started in 1962. K&R C was published in 1978. You can be pedantic about ARPANET =/= Internet, I guess, but even then the picture isn't very clear. The ARPANET backbone was gradually killed off over time. It didn't completely die until 1989. So even if the two are not the same, there's no distinct moment in time when ARPANET became "the Internet". The first use of the word "internet" was in late 1974 in relation to what would eventually officially become IP in 1981. On the whole, I'd say K&R does not predate "the Internet", even by pedantic standards.

But having said that, I've seen this argument before about "hello world". I'm not convinced it's an internet meme. Well, more precisely, it's an internet meme now, but that's been a late development in its life-cycle. Certainly people did exchange source code over the internet even back in the late 70s early 80s. But people generally weren't exchanging "hello world" programs, and when they did, it wasn't done intentionally for the purpose of spreading "hello world" as an idea. On the memetic side of things, "hello world" spread through ink-and-paper books and classrooms until the Internet became a popular place for disseminating programming (esp. C) tutorials.

That could arguably make it an older internet meme than AMB or the dancing baby, though. Apparently both of those originated in 1996. That's about when the early adopters within the general population first started coming online. But programming nerds were ahead of that curve, especially if you count Usenet. I wasn't around (on the internet) when Usenet was young, so I don't really have a good feel for it. I'm sure people talked about programming over Usenet, but I don't know if "hello world" spread memetically through that venue or not.

On that note:

printf("Goodbye world."); // :(

Not to diminish from Steve Job's death, or anything, but ... UNIX and C, people. UNIX and C! MacOS, Linux, Windows, BSD, ... virtually every modern OS and an unimaginably large number of applications are all deeply indebted to this man. But while programmers generally all know who he is, the average person has no clue that 99% of what they interact with every day is either directly only slightly indirectly a part of his legacy.

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

In the most primordial sense the Internet started with Morse code.

flame wars - vi v. emacs is up there too.

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In time, this too shall pass.

I use both vi and emacs. Vi if I want to quickly look at something and make edits, emacs if I want to do extensive work on files.

It doesn't sound as if you know how to use vi well then.

*****.

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That's right, I don't. My emacs is quite customized and I can do things very quickly in it. I'd wager that vi is slightly better but it would slow me down in the short term.

By the way I only use the terminal, VNC is for losers (and Linux desktop is for hipsters).

FAIL

Don't even freaking know how to flame, Lex Lamor.

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Maybe he'd be better at Gnome vs. KDE? Although these days I think we can all agree that Gnome 3 is *** :/

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Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.

Every GUI on Linux sucks. How about that?