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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:56 pm 
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http://eatocracy.cnn.com/2011/11/09/mos ... ?hpt=ea_r5


I find this upsetting.


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I only use the good stuff.

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19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

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Also, shouldn't this thread be in "Food"?

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19 Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. 20 There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

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We have several bee keepers in our area, so I always buy locally.

I am however, outta cane syrup. Fresh, hot biscuits with cane syrup.......yummmm.


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I'm not a big honey user, but when I do buy it, its from the local Farmer's Market, comes in Mason Jars, tastes great but lasts for a long long time. As I said, I'm not much of a honey user.

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I don't really care for honey. I do drive up to Vermont every year for a few gallons of syrup from local sugarhouses.


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Rynar wrote:
Also, shouldn't this thread be in "Food"?

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The lack of regulation is what enables potentially unsafe honey is able to make its way into the country, Andrew Schneider, author of the Food and Safety News report.


As much as you want to buy only the good stuff, I suspect you have a problem with that statement.

(See? Anything can belong in Hellfire.)

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He probably doesn't. Critics in the United States like to say "lack of regulation" causes everything.

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Also, shouldn't this thread be in "Food"?

**** honey and all you honeylovers.

There, now it can stay.

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I can top that, Hop:

Large intakes of honey during pregnancy can cause miscarriages. Giving honey to infants under a year old can cause death.
We need more regulation!! Ban the baby-killing-honey!!!

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I find this upsetting. I use honey in my tea often.

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Talya wrote:
Rynar wrote:
Also, shouldn't this thread be in "Food"?

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The lack of regulation is what enables potentially unsafe honey is able to make its way into the country, Andrew Schneider, author of the Food and Safety News report.

Honey regulator don't give a ****!

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Honey regulator don't give a ****!


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I want to post Tourette's Guy, but I can't decide which video is most fitting!

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Honey is a miracle drug and bee pollen cures everything from anaphalesic shock to zoophobia. People working against the wide spread of honey and honey bees are end-world activists trying to destroy all life on this planet. Anyone who says otherwise is a Godwin baiting Nazi trying to shock and awe Nitefox.

You can close the thread now, surely I've said enough to achieve that. Oh and FarSky is a my little Pony serial killer.

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I always buy my honey raw from local farmers markets. I don't know if they're any more legit than the chains, but it seems like they are.


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I like to purchase just about anything from a local farmer's market whenever possible... well, whenever I remember to, at least. I can't recall if I've ever bought honey at one, but I probably would if I were low on honey when I stopped at one.

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Stathol wrote:
Talya wrote:
Rynar wrote:
Also, shouldn't this thread be in "Food"?

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The lack of regulation is what enables potentially unsafe honey is able to make its way into the country, Andrew Schneider, author of the Food and Safety News report.

Honey regulator don't give a ****!

Aaaaand.../threadwin.


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I heard that honey is the only food that never, ever, goes bad.

It will crystallize, but if heated properly will go back exactly as before.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I heard that honey is the only food that never, ever, goes bad.
Eh ... sort of. Honey can spoil; it can ferment; it can become toxic to human beings. I can't do any of those things in a honey comb or mostly air-tight jar unless you introduce some sort of foreign agent.

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This is super cool: http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen01/gen01338.htm

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The nectar brought to the hive by the bees is about 60% water. The bees "cure" it to about 18-19% water. At this level of water and with a pH of 3-4, the honey is very stable and can last for literally centuries. (It was found in Egyptian tombs.) However, it is - as you mention - hydroscopic. (I believe there is such a word.) If it is left exposed to the air, it will absorb water from the air. The greater concentration of water allows yeast (that is found naturally in the environment) to multiply. A by product of the yeast is alcohol - the honey ferments. If the correct yeast is present (and naturally occurring yeast is not such) is produces a drink known as mead. If allowed to ferment naturally, honey develops an unpalatable taste... though it is still sometimes used in baking where the alcohol is evaporated from the honey.

The bees prevent the fermentation of the honey by sealing the honey in the honey comb. When we harvest the honey, we can leave it in the comb or extract it and seal it in jars, like the shelves of your local grocery store.

Because honey is hygroscopic, it is extends the shelf-life of baked goods. They are less likely to dry out because the honey absorbs moisture from the surrounding air. If you want to try this out, bake a batch of cookies using sugar. Then make a second batch replacing half of the sugar with honey. To do this you need to reduce the liquids in the recipe by 1/4 cup for each cup of honey (because of the water in the honey... remember, about 19%) and reduce the cooking temperature by 25 degrees. See which batch survives longer.

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Khross wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I heard that honey is the only food that never, ever, goes bad.
Eh ... sort of. Honey can spoil; it can ferment; it can become toxic to human beings. I can't do any of those things in a honey comb or mostly air-tight jar unless you introduce some sort of foreign agent.


You know what? Having just helped make a batch of honey-mead, I guess I knew that.

LK - thanks, pretty interesting.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I heard that honey is the only food that never, ever, goes bad.
Eh ... sort of. Honey can spoil; it can ferment; it can become toxic to human beings. I can't do any of those things in a honey comb or mostly air-tight jar unless you introduce some sort of foreign agent.
You know what? Having just helped make a batch of honey-mead, I guess I knew that.

LK - thanks, pretty interesting.
Making mead is why I know that!

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Khross wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Khross wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I heard that honey is the only food that never, ever, goes bad.
Eh ... sort of. Honey can spoil; it can ferment; it can become toxic to human beings. I can't do any of those things in a honey comb or mostly air-tight jar unless you introduce some sort of foreign agent.
You know what? Having just helped make a batch of honey-mead, I guess I knew that.

LK - thanks, pretty interesting.
Making mead is why I know that!


I'd give our batch about a 6/10. Good drink, but you probably wouldn't pay for it.


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