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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:51 pm 
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I really liked a lot of the movies that got poor ratings here. You should look at the mass appeal of a movie, not just its score. I bet there's obscure French films from the 1960s that get higher ratings than Happy Gilmore, and it just isn't a good metric alone.

On a tangent, old movies get rated wayyy too high. If you halved all the ratings of movies made before 1970 it would be more accurate.


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Looks like the crappy movies make him more money? Not a indication to go high and artistic.

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Wow, Grown Ups made 162 million. I saw that movie on a plane and still didn't make it through. What a piece of garbage.

P.S. I would be 100% willing to stand up and defend Happy Gilmore, which is a hilarious film, and gets better every time you see it. Unfortunately, Sandler just made the most cliche cross-dressing film ever for a paycheck, so **** him for now. (Happy Gilmore is still hilarious though).


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I loved Big Daddy and The Waterboy :) I won't lie, I watched Click for Kate Beckinsale


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I can honestly say I've never seen a good Adam Sandler film. Related, but not contradictory, I have never seen an Adam Sandler film that I found funny, either.


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FarSky wrote:
I can honestly say I've never seen a good Adam Sandler film. Related, but not contradictory, I have never seen an Adam Sandler film that I found funny, either.


Just for clarification, which ones have you seen?


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The Wedding Singer
Happy Gilmore
Billy Madison
Big Daddy
The Waterboy
The Longest Yard
Little Nicky
Mr. Deeds


The only one I'd actually expect to be good would be Punch-Drunk Love, but I've never gotten around to seeing it.


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Yeah, punch-drunk love was pretty good. I'm sad you didn't like Happy Gilmore though. Are you sure you still have a non-cynical sense of humor? Maybe your internal critic is running the show.


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Yeah, punch-drunk love was pretty good. I'm sad you didn't like Happy Gilmore though. Are you sure you still have a non-cynical sense of humor? Maybe your internal critic is running the show.


It has sports in it.

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I liked Happy Gilmore a lot. I also like The Waterboy. And Don't Mess with the Zohan was so over the top that I enjoyed it as well. Some of his movies are pretty terrible(Little Nicky, I'm looking in your direction) but some of them are pretty funny. I have zero interest in seeing this latest one, though.

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Humor's a really weird thing. A movie/action/joke/whatever can't objectively be deemed 'funny.' Humor bypasses all of our logic centers and either hits the mark in a person or doesn't (horror is much the same way). Something I find funny will statistically be found funny by other people, but not all, and the converse is true.

I don't find any of his comedies to be very well-made, but comedy doesn't have to be immaculately crafted. The sole criterion for if a comedy is successful to me or not is "Did it make me laugh?" There are many, many movies I find hilarious, many with quote-unquote 'stupid,' crude, or nonsensical humor. I will laugh my *** off at any given thirty seconds of Anchorman. Despite the laws of diminishing returns being in full effect, the Austin Powers movies make me laugh wildly (though I still consider the first one to be a legitimately smart, good film, the others are just plain funny...well, maybe the third one not so as much). Animal House. Pretty much any Mel Brooks movie, particularly History of the World Part I (Brooks started with smart, Borscht Belt humor and progressed to ever cruder, ever broader humor, but it still works for me).

Sandler's particular brand of humor just doesn't hit that funny center of my brain (his buddy Rob Schneider similarly misses the mark every. damn. time). And bereft of that, I'd then fall back on judging whether the films were well-made or not. His comedies aren't. So with those two strikes against them, I rarely find value in his films. Mostly they're just grating, annoying wastes of money that I've had to suffer through because others wanted to see them.


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Wait, did I just ask you a question, and then you responded with a rational, well composed answer? Without any rancor from either of us?

This is the internet. Shouldn't we be slandering and shouting right now?


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Sorry, was tired last night. Here we go [clears throat]:

GRAWR. <slobber>


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You GRAWR like a little girl.

In all honesty though, you have the <slobber> down pat.

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I hate Adam Sandler.

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FarSky wrote:
Sandler's particular brand of humor just doesn't hit that funny center of my brain....And bereft of that, I'd then fall back on judging whether the films were well-made or not. His comedies aren't.

I think Anger Management and 50 First Dates are actually decent movies, regardless of whether you find the humor funny. I don't even really think of them as comedies. Anger Management isn't about humor; it's about catharsis. And 50 First Dates is a rom com rather than a true "comedy".


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Having a grandfather who watched "The Price is Right" every morning and thus being very familiar with its host, watching Bob Barker getting into a fight with Adam Sandler's character (and winning) shot that movie into the stratosphere of comedies for me.

I enjoyed 50 First Dates as well, but I was most impressed (SPOILER ALERT) with the fact they didn't cure Drew of her recurring memory loss. Most movies go for the cheap "Everything is fixed" happy ending. I was surprised and glad to see this one didn't go that route.

Other than 50 First Dates, I haven't liked anything Adam has done post '90s. My strong hunch is that why people keep going to see his movies is because they hope that "this one" will be just as good as some of his originals. They get disappointed. And then the cycle repeats. "Maybe... just maybe..."

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I like most of his movies.

I think I remember and interview he did and he said he likes to make movies that he and his buddies would all like. He's not looking to win awards or be known for being a master thespian. He likes to make people laugh.

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I liked Sandler best in "Reign Over Me", probably 'cause that's the only movie I've seen him play a character that isn't a clown.

I've not seen many of his movies all the way through. I've seen parts of most of his movies, but I can't watch the whole thing.

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As the chart shows with the money: because people watch them.

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I was a huge fan of 50 first dates... it was just... sugary, sickly sweet.


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Rorinthas wrote:
As the chart shows with the money: because people watch them.


And people watch them because they like them.


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Lydiaa wrote:
I was a huge fan of 50 first dates... it was just... sugary, sickly sweet.

^This.

Otherwise, Sandler is very hit or miss with me. Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison were two of the funniest movies I have ever seen. Along the same lines Beavis and Butthead was the funniest show I ever saw (barring The State). Now that I am older and I go back and watch them I have found my humor has shifted away from that style.

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I had forgotten how many things he's actually been in:

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