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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:10 pm 
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A blow to western intelligence and not much is said in the news, from what I can tell.

What's up with that?

http://gma.yahoo.com/exclusive-cia-spie ... 19159.html

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In Beirut, two Hezbollah double agents pretended to go to work for the CIA. Hezbollah then learned of the restaurant where multiple CIA officers were meeting with several agents, according to the four current and former officials briefed on the case. The CIA used the codeword "PIZZA" when discussing where to meet with the agents, according to U.S. officials. Two former officials describe the location as a Beirut Pizza Hut. A current US official denied that CIA officers met their agents at Pizza Hut.

From there, Hezbollah's internal security arm identified at least a dozen informants, and the identities of several CIA case officers.

Hezbollah then began to "roll up" much of the CIA's network against the terror group, the officials said.

One former senior intelligence official told ABC News that CIA officers ignored warnings that the operation could be compromised by using the same location for meetings with multiple assets.

"We were lazy and the CIA is now flying blind against Hezbollah," the former official said.

CIA Spies Caught in Iran

At about the same time that Hezbollah was identifying the CIA network in Lebanon, Iranian intelligence agents discovered a secret internet communication method used by CIA-paid assets in Iran.

The CIA has yet to determine precisely how many of its assets were compromised in Iran, but the number could be in the dozens, according to one current and one former U.S. intelligence official.

The exposure of the two spy networks was first announced in widely ignored televised statements by Iranian and Hezbollah leaders. U.S. officials tell ABC News that much of what was broadcast was, in fact, true.
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Some former U.S. intelligence officials say the developments are the result of a lack of professionalism in the U.S. intelligence community.

"We've lost the tradition of espionage," said one former official who still consults for the U.S. intelligence community. "Officers take short cuts and no one is held accountable," he said.

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Good. I don't think countries should be infiltrating eachother outside of global accountability.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
Good. I don't think countries should be infiltrating eachother outside of global accountability.

It's "good" folks were captured and possibly killed?

And, it's "good" that when Iran is reported to have almost developed nuclear tech to the point where they can manufacture weapons, which will incite Israel to attack, we lose intel assets there?

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Taskiss wrote:
Lex Luthor wrote:
Good. I don't think countries should be infiltrating eachother outside of global accountability.

It's "good" folks were captured and possibly killed?

And, it's "good" that when Iran is reported to have almost developed nuclear tech to the point where they can manufacture weapons, which will incite Israel to attack, we lose intel assets there?


If you step into the Lion's den, prepare to be mauled. I meant it's 'good' from a policy sense, in that maybe we will spy less when it doesn't work out. I don't think we should be spying as well. It violates their national sovereignty although I guess nobody cares about this anymore. I don't think a few spies would stop a large war, that sounds like a Hollywood script.


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OK, we just assume the worst and glass the desert over then. Works for me.

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I favor the 'Do nothing because we're thousands of miles away' approach. No spies, no soldiers on the ground, no air strikes.


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Ah, ignore it and hope it goes away.

What could possibly go wrong?

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What's the worst thing the Iranians have done? Invade Greece? (ok, that was thousands of years ago).


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seize the US embassy? sponsor terrorism? I seem to recall various fatwah against US and British citizens, which included assassination attempts. Various forms of economic warfare.


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Lex Luthor wrote:
What's the worst thing the Iranians have done? Invade Greece? (ok, that was thousands of years ago).

Is that a question?

So, you really don't even pretend to know "what's the worst thing the Iranians have done" and you think we shouldn't even try to find out what they're planning on doing.

As a foreign policy, can you think of any nation of today or any year since mankind began recording history that "What you don't know can't hurt you" was ever successful?

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seize the US embassy? sponsor terrorism? I seem to recall various fatwah against US and British citizens, which included assassination attempts. Various forms of economic warfare.

Plus human rights violations, support of terrorist organizations, exporting wmd tech, and declarations of war against the US and her allies...


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Humans rights violations so lets invade China!

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In Beirut, two Hezbollah double agents pretended to go to work for the CIA. Hezbollah then learned of the restaurant where multiple CIA officers were meeting with several agents, according to the four current and former officials briefed on the case. The CIA used the codeword "PIZZA" when discussing where to meet with the agents, according to U.S. officials. Two former officials describe the location as a Beirut Pizza Hut. A current US official denied that CIA officers met their agents at Pizza Hut.


If true, that's pretty weaksauce for the CIA.

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