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Oh trust me, the firing doesn't surprise me. For everything I disagreed with about the company, I made it WELL KNOWN.

They'd do stuff like ask my opinion, and then ignore my genius. They'd do the exact opposite of what I said needed to be done, or do something completely different, and wonder why our performance scores went down. Well, if the "pay for performance" system was correct (which it wasn't, and I explained this to them mathematically on numerous occasions), then the performance scores would have went up, not down, and we wouldn't need 4 people instead of 2 or 3 to get the same job, and take more hours to do it. For some reason, this concept was completely foreign to them and the fact that I brought it up put me on their sh*t-list. When all of the employees I worked with agreed with me and the only people who never understood what I was saying were the supervisors and managers who weren't actually doing the work, I had every right to be extremely pissed off.

I'm a no-nonsense type of guy. Think Dirty Harry, but without the gun or physical violence. I get sh*t done on my own terms. I constantly disobeyed them, and I was better for it. More work got done doing it my way. The only people who didn't like me at that place were the supervisors/managers, the bipolar gossip queen, a few fat people, and this slutty girl who I didn't want to f*ck (didn't want to become a statistic).

Also, numerous conflicts of interest. How is it fair for me to get written up for 4 errors out of 19,200 (about a 99.98% performance) and the girl from dayshift can get 25 errors and not get fired? Oh, it's because she has giant tits and has sex with the supervisor (and possibly other managers).

So I ignore these "trouble people" aka "gossiping whores" because they piss me off, and that intimidates them.

I hated every second of that job and I can't bring myself to respect people who are dumber than me (like my supervisors and most of my coworkers). It's standard protocol to fire people like me that call them out for every mistake they make.

The way I figure...if they're going to hold me to a 99.98% performance standard, I'm going to hold THEM to that standard, and if they don't like it, they can either A. suck my balls, or B. fire me. I'm just surprised it took as long as it did.

It's the reason for firing that surprises me.

A few specific people (1 is a compulsive liar that couldnt stop talking about the firearms he just bought and got licensed for, the other has bipolar and hates my guts because I called her a gossip queen in front of everyone, the other one constantly talking about blowing up the place as a joke....none of which were me, at all) combined with the fact that I ignore assholes and for some reason this intimidates them.

I'm still surprised at the accusations. This blow the place up and shoot the place up stuff came out of almost f*cking nowhere.

Now that I don't have to go back to that hellhole, I can focus on trading and retire long before any of those dipsh*ts do.

I had actually been planning to quit in a few more months (like March next year) so this is only a minor financial setback for me.

Fired rhymes with retired, baby! (even though I technically resigned, and wasn't fired) :lol:

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The worst part is, it gets lonely working when everyone is out in the evening, and sleeping when everyone is awake.

And so true, no one ever knows your schedule. They call you during the day and act surprised pissed off that you are in bed.


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They'd do stuff like ask my opinion, and then ignore my genius.

I get sh*t done on my own terms. I constantly disobeyed them, and I was better for it. More work got done doing it my way.

I can't bring myself to respect people who are dumber than me (like my supervisors and most of my coworkers).

I'm going to hold THEM to that standard, and if they don't like it, they can either A. suck my balls, or B. fire me.


The sense of entitlement here is palpable.


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If you get fired from your job, then you weren't meant to have it. Find one you like more. Don't change yourself just to make your employers happy.


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They'd do stuff like ask my opinion, and then ignore my genius.

I get sh*t done on my own terms. I constantly disobeyed them, and I was better for it. More work got done doing it my way.

I can't bring myself to respect people who are dumber than me (like my supervisors and most of my coworkers).

I'm going to hold THEM to that standard, and if they don't like it, they can either A. suck my balls, or B. fire me.


The sense of entitlement here is palpable.



Dude, what's the point of you even being here on the Glade? To troll? All you ever do is come into my threads and take a dump on them. Do you have anything better to do than post thinly veiled insults and be a debbie downer in general. Now you're sh*tting in the namecoin thread too. ( viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7692#p182853 )

"This wont go anywhere"



How the hell do you know? Do you know the future? Are you some kind of super genius? Can you tell me the lottery numbers for this Wednesday's Powerball?


Could it be possible that you just post these kind of responses because you like to start arguments?

You don't know me. You don't understand my writing style or my humor. You're way out of your league, Donnie.


As a general message board rule: If you have nothing good to say or on topic in a thread, just leave it alone.

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Believe me, I have more important things to do with my time than wonder about how I'm going to troll you. I just post what I see, and your sense of entitlement is through the roof. I've been seeing your posts for a decade; don't act like I'm some newbie here that has no idea who you are.

Your sense of entitlement IS that strong. Have you ever tried to be a little introspective and wonder if maybe that combined with your apparent hatred of everyone-but-yourself is the reason you haven't been holding jobs down?


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Have you ever tried to be a little introspective and wonder


Haha... my point is proven. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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...if maybe that combined with your apparent hatred of everyone-but-yourself is...

just because I hate you doesn't mean I hate everyone else, too :lol:

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...the reason you haven't been holding jobs down?


wrong again.

You also say it as if your path to what you define to be success is better than mine.


What's better a sense of superiority or a sense of entitlement? Your intention in this thread is to what end? Like I said, you have nothing positive to add and you just wanted to instigate.


You're right though. I do feel entitled. As a human being put on this Earth just like everyone else, I do feel entitled to speak my mind. I do feel like it is my responsibility to point out clearly obvious logical errors and question authority when they hide information and manipulate information that has a direct influence on my pay, and quality of life. It's my basic human right.

Thanks for pointing it out.

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Yet no one else is entitled to speak their minds?

Of course I think my "path to success" is better than yours. Anyone following what they consider a sub-optimal path would be idiotic. We clearly have different definitions of success though. I enjoy holding jobs long-term and don't do risky things like 'coins or day trading. I also treat everyone with respect and do my job promptly, as specified, and without complaint.

Senses of superiority and senses of entitlement can both be bad. However, where your entitlement makes you an argumentative worker, my sense of superiority translates into a quiet confidence of my own ability.

Just in case you still don't see my original point, I'll spell it out. I don't think you have the ability to recognize any of your own faults. If you do, you don't think they're bad enough to take note of. You got fired and you're not willing to acknowledge that it's your fault. It's not anyone else's fault, it's yours. Own up to it.


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Yet no one else is entitled to speak their minds?

Of course I think my "path to success" is better than yours. Anyone following what they consider a sub-optimal path would be idiotic. We clearly have different definitions of success though. I enjoy holding jobs long-term and don't do risky things like 'coins or day trading. I also treat everyone with respect and do my job promptly, as specified, and without complaint.

Senses of superiority and senses of entitlement can both be bad. However, where your entitlement makes you an argumentative worker, my sense of superiority translates into a quiet confidence of my own ability.

Just in case you still don't see my original point, I'll spell it out. I don't think you have the ability to recognize any of your own faults. If you do, you don't think they're bad enough to take note of. You got fired and you're not willing to acknowledge that it's your fault. It's not anyone else's fault, it's yours. Own up to it.


Half of the stuff in your post is based on incorrect assumptions.

Different people react differently in different situations. Your assertion that your reaction (quiet confidence at your job) makes you successful and better, and makes me an idiot, proves that you have some kind of superiority complex. The case that is more likely, however, is that you have a personal problem with me. The fact remains that you're missing my point: you only came into this thread to antagonize me.

I admit that I have my faults. The job clearly wasn't a good fit for me. Like I had mentioned previously, I was planning to quit in a few months anyway. I had a few issues with a supervisor (as did most people) who was subsequently fired and the job hasn't been the same since then. I've been meaning to look for something new for a while but I haven't had time to dedicate to looking for another boss to kiss *** to. Instead I changed my life philosophy.


I'm out of the corporate rat-race. From now on, I work for myself. It's obvious to me that I have a unique approach to things that few people are able to understand. As far as I'm concerned, this is the only logical choice for me.

Obviously we have our disagreements as to what defines "success". To me, it can mean a lot of things, but I don't and I never will subscribe to the idea that in order to be "successful" you need be a follower and do what most people do.


I'm very confident in my abilities and my beliefs, and I will defend them to the bitter end.

If I wasn't so gung-ho about questioning everything, especially authority, and thinking FOR MYSELF, I would never be as confident, creative or intelligent as I am now.

If I took more of peoples advice instead of rejecting it, I would probably be on this life path:

1. Graduate from college with approximately $60-$120 thousand in debt.
2. Not able to get a job in the field I was interested in, unable to pay off the debt.
3. Buy a house, get married, have kids in my 20s. More debt. More wage slavery.
4. Hope that with whatever money I can spare, I'm able to start a meager 401k.
5. Hope that by the time I'm in my 60s or 70s I'm able to retire.
6. If I'm lucky, retire with a 401k and other income large enough to sustain myself until the day I die. Hopefully by this time, all my hair hasn't fallen out. Hopefully my hearing and eyesight are still as sharp as they are now, and if I'm REALLY lucky my bowels will still be functional and I will not have developed some type of degenerative brain condition (such as Alzheimer's disease).



At some point in the past 10 years, I realized this wasn't for me.



Does that make you a better person? Sure, if it makes you feel better to think that.



One thing's for sure, when you're stuck in some meeting, or talking to some ***** customer, or trying to negotiate a small pittance of a raise, I'll be doing things my way.



I'm going to be "successful", Lenas, not because I take everyone's advice and take the easy way, but because I have something you don't have. Balls.

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Trust me Nev, your hearing and eyesight won't be sharp and your main concern will be your bowels, after retirement. You will be able to do a power point presentation of your bowel habits and medications that you take though ;). I love when I get those! Makes the shift in ER go by faster.

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Trust me Nev, your hearing and eyesight won't be sharp and your main concern will be your bowels, after retirement. You will be able to do a power point presentation of your bowel habits and medications that you take though ;). I love when I get those! Makes the shift in ER go by faster.



Haha, you have to do powerpoint presentations on ...what?


Could you be more specific.

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I'm going to be "successful", Lenas, not because I take everyone's advice and take the easy way, but because I have something you don't have. Balls.


Talk about assumptions! You only need balls when you don't have a plan and you need to hope for the best. I've been in those positions. When I was 20 years old I quit my first corporate job, spent 100% of my savings creating my own business and got myself clients from San Diego to Holland. I had nationally-recognized work with my name on it by the time I was 21. I was teaching college classes by the time I was 23. I can pick up everything I own and move to Los Angeles, New York, Portland, Phoenix or San Francisco and have a job the second I get off the plane. I can do these things because I'm an organized, polite professional.

Good luck your approach of not getting along with anyone.


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Lenas wrote:
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I'm going to be "successful", Lenas, not because I take everyone's advice and take the easy way, but because I have something you don't have. Balls.


Talk about assumptions! You only need balls when you don't have a plan and you need to hope for the best. I've been in those positions. When I was 20 years old I quit my first corporate job, spent 100% of my savings creating my own business and got myself clients from San Diego to Holland. I had nationally-recognized work with my name on it by the time I was 21. I was teaching college classes by the time I was 23. I can pick up everything I own and move to Los Angeles, New York, Portland, Phoenix or San Francisco and have a job the second I get off the plane. I can do these things because I'm an organized, polite professional.

Good luck your approach of not getting along with anyone.




How much money do you make, Lenas? I'll let you know when I surpass you.

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For everything I disagreed with about the company, I made it WELL KNOWN.
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They'd do stuff like ask my opinion, and then ignore my genius.
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I'm a no-nonsense type of guy. Think Dirty Harry, but without the gun or physical violence. I get sh*t done on my own terms. I constantly disobeyed them, and I was better for it. More work got done doing it my way. The only people who didn't like me at that place were the supervisors/managers, the bipolar gossip queen, a few fat people, and this slutty girl who I didn't want to f*ck (didn't want to become a statistic).
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So I ignore these "trouble people" aka "gossiping whores" because they piss me off, and that intimidates them.
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I hated every second of that job and I can't bring myself to respect people who are dumber than me (like my supervisors and most of my coworkers). It's standard protocol to fire people like me that call them out for every mistake they make.
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A few specific people (1 is a compulsive liar that couldnt stop talking about the firearms he just bought and got licensed for, the other has bipolar and hates my guts because I called her a gossip queen in front of everyone, the other one constantly talking about blowing up the place as a joke....none of which were me, at all) combined with the fact that I ignore assholes and for some reason this intimidates them.

What's that mental condition where people see only themselves as a 'real' person and no one else? 'Solipsism' comes to mind but that's not quite right. 'Holden Caulfield' Syndrome. At any rate it reads like the ramblings of a pompous, narcissistic teenager.

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This blow the place up and shoot the place up stuff came out of almost f*cking nowhere.

Emphasis mine. Intriguing.

It seems to multiple people here that you acted like a prick at your job (and this is coming from your own telling of the tale), and now you're being a prick here. You'd better be damn good at whatever nebulous job you ultimately choose, because it's going to take a hell of a lot of talent to get people to still want to deal with you.


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Obviously I can't give out any details or names, but rest assured, someone has been lying, and it wasn't me.

I did act like an *******, though. Definitely. It was my intention to be a giant dick until the day I quit.


I did quit.

I wasn't fired.

It was a temporary suspension, and I gave them information.

I am very pissed off, and during the 20 minute phone call the interviewers tone changed from suspicious, cautious to explanatory and apologetic.


The investigation is over, case closed. They're going their way, and I'm going mine. No harm, no foul.

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How much money do you make, Lenas? I'll let you know when I surpass you.


Enough to not want to post specifics. Let me know when you hit six figures.


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I'll let you know when I hit 7 :)

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I did act like an *******, though. Definitely. It was my intention to be a giant dick until the day I quit.


Nevandal,

You shouldn't be acting like this, as it's antisocial behavior. You're placing most of the blame on external factors, when likely the issue is with you.


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Tell me, Lenas, Why was 6 so afraid of 7?

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I did act like an *******, though. Definitely. It was my intention to be a giant dick until the day I quit.


Nevandal,

You shouldn't be acting like this, as it's antisocial behavior. You're placing most of the blame on external factors, when likely the issue is with you.



I see both sides. If I agreed with their side, this statement is correct. Since I don't agree, it's a moot point.

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I can't wait to see the business model.

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Because seven ate nine! lol!


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I can't wait to see the business model.


I don't intend to share it.


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Because seven ate nine! lol!



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Understandable. How about an Action Plan.

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I see both sides. If I agreed with their side, this statement is correct. Since I don't agree, it's a moot point.


It doesn't matter if you agree. It matters if the people that fired you agree.


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