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PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:42 pm 
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And a couple young teens gets shot int he process

I heard on the radio today that at least one of them can't move his legs although they are not certain if that will be the case long term yet.
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EDINBURG, Texas – Texas sheriff says authorities have interviewed three hunters suspected of firing stray bullets that wounded two middle school students trying out for the basketball team.

Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Trevino tells The Associated Press early Tuesday that the "working theory" in the investigation is that the hunters fired the bullets. However, he says it still hasn't been determined if the shootings were intentional, reckless or an accident.

He says the hunters were taken in for questioning Monday night but weren't immediately arrested.

He says one of the boys was listed in critical condition and the other was in stable condition. The shootings occurred Monday afternoon outside Harwell Middle School near Edinburg in South Texas.

At the time of the shooting, one of the boys was going for a layup. The other was waiting his turn to try out, Trevino said.

Trevino says the school is in a heavily rural area, with two hunting pastures nearby.

Harwell Middle School had opened just this year on the property northeast of Edinburg, which is about 50 miles northwest of Brownsville. Homes line the road approaching the school, but open fields stretch out behind it and to the north.

Investigators have spoken with owners of surrounding farms and the land was being leased to deer hunters.

The outdoor court where the shooting took place was north of the school complex at an athletic facility that includes a football field, track and tennis courts, said Oziel Garzia, a 14-year-old eighth-grader.

Annette Vargas Ugalde, a 15-year-old eighth grader, said she was about to board her bus near the gym after school when school officials started rushing students indoors.

"They told us to, 'Get inside, get inside,'" she said.

She said she heard no shots but saw a group of people on the outdoor court standing near one boy on the ground. A school nurse tended to him while another boy was sitting up.

Annett said she boarded her bus and it left.

Samuel Cepeda, a 15-year-old eighth-grader, said gangs have been a problem at the school, and he has worried about security. However, Trevino said investigators do not believe the shooting was gang related.

The school district did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

By 7:20 p.m. Monday, traffic had cleared from the road in front of the school, and only emergency vehicles remained. Several school buses made their way through traffic and the police cordon to the front of the school where they picked up students.


This article is 5 days old, but it has since been determined that at least one of these guys is illegal and that they were poaching to boot. As for if they fired the shots.. ballistic testing is ongoing, but I know of no evidence anyone else was around.

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Illegals our hunting our childrens! OMG.

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Illegals our hunting our childrens! OMG.

Damn illegals taking our jobs.../grumble.


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holy crap. Illegal, Poaching, and causing injury at the same time, These guys aren't hunters to start with.
know the laws, know your environment, look beyond your target, don't take risky or unethical shots.
When can we get hunt tags for illegals?

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Leshani wrote:
When can we get hunt tags for illegals?


Never, for a variety of legal, ethical, and societal reasons.


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laws can be changed to address the legal side of the matter,
ethical; is it ethical to allow foreign invaders, to commit crimes, pollute, our country, ignore our laws, and kill/injury our citizens?
Society adapts once the truth is actually told.

In the countries that these people come from, the offenses that we allow them to commit here would earn them life in prison at the least.
If a U.S. citizen committed these crimes in their home country the people there would be screaming for punishment.

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It would be racial profiling to ask for immigration papers before shooting someone.

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Mookhow wrote:
It would be racial profiling to ask for immigration papers before shooting someone.


Disagree
8 Hispanics carrying black plastic garbage bags,Hiding from law enforcement, winding their way through Josephine canyon in an attempt to circumvent the tubac check point pretty much cover the bases

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Mookhow wrote:
It would be racial profiling to ask for immigration papers before shooting someone.


No, no. It's racial profiling to ask someone who's not white for immigration papers before shooting them. If they're white, it's perfectly acceptable to think they might be an illegal immigrant.

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Shoot first, ask questions later?


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no study the situation, the environment, known behaviors, and evaluate, Then shoot

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I think it's unfair to label all illegal immigrants as child killers and then shoot them. Saying we're "allowing" illegal behavior is inaccurate as well.

I don't bear much ill will against illegals though. I just don't like them not paying taxes and then using things that are paid for with taxes.

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I'm sticking with no capital punishment for property crimes. So shooting people who are merely unlawfully present (either on my lawn or in the the united states) still irks me.

These folks should simply be deported unless the felony/murder statute comes into play.

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