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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:20 pm 
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http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/arti ... an-studies

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A Canadian-developed vaccine to prevent HIV has been given the green light for testing in human clinical trials.

The vaccine, developed by researchers at the University of Western Ontario, has been approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to start being tested in humans in January.

It is the first preventive HIV vaccine approved for clinical trials to use a whole HIV-1 virus, which has been both killed and genetically engineered, to activate immunity. In this way, the new vaccine is much like the killed whole virus vaccines that are successful against polio, rabies and influenza.

Other HIV vaccines currently in clinical human trials have largely focused on one specific component of HIV to trigger an immune response. Right now, there is no effective HIV vaccine.

“FDA approval for human clinical trials is an extremely significant milestone for our vaccine, which has the potential to save the lives of millions of people around the world by preventing HIV infection,” said Dr. Chil-Yong Kang, professor of virology at the Schulich School of Medicine and Dentistry at the University of Western Ontario, in a release.

The announcement was made Tuesday morning in London.

The vaccine, the only HIV vaccine being developed in Canada, received funding from Sumagen Canada, a company created in 2008 to support the development of the vaccine.

Previous studies have shown the vaccine triggers a strong immune response and has yet to show any adverse effects or safety risks.


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I applaud the intent, but I'd hate to be part of the group pitching the test to potential volunteers.

"Okay, we're going to administer this shot, and then in the next room you'll find some HIV+ trannies."

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I applaud the intent, but I'd hate to be part of the group pitching the test to potential volunteers.

"Okay, we're going to administer this shot, and then in the next room you'll find some HIV+ trannies."


The study might go better if you replace the trannies with hot chicks.


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But it would less reliably reproduce real-world conditions.

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They actually have been conducting Human HIV vaccine trials already as a friend of mine took part in them, and the way they test that is works is by testing it with young gay men as anal intercourse has a higher transmission rate than normal intercourse, men are less responsible when it comes to using protection, so 2 men increases the chances of not using protection and young men are even less responsible, so triple whammy.

After a set time period of testing they know statistically how many would normally get HIV in that time frame and compare that percentage of the study, there is no shooting up someone with a shot and telling them to have unprotected sex with someone who's HIV positive.


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They already know this thing kills HIV. What they don't know is how it will affect the human body. That's what the trials are for; you get injected and studied to see if there are any side-effects. No one is gonna get a shot and go **** a tranny. That's what heroin is for.


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Lenas wrote:
No one is gonna get a shot and go **** a tranny. That's what heroin is for.


Well that and transmitting HIV and Hep...

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Ugh. So now you have young, irresponsible, horny, gay males who have been told they might be immune to HIV. Brilliant.


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They're no more irresponsible and horny than straight males, they just have an easier time finding sex partners.

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Lenas wrote:
They already know this thing kills HIV. What they don't know is how it will affect the human body. That's what the trials are for; you get injected and studied to see if there are any side-effects. No one is gonna get a shot and go **** a tranny. That's what heroin is for.

Vaccine's don't cure diseases, they prevent them by allowing your body to create anti-bodies for the disease in a controlled and safe manner so it does not kill HIV. You are correct though that these people already have HIV so it is just to see if there are ill-effects. Assuming that no one sprouts a third-arm they'll move forward to phase II & III similar to what Sas's friend is enrolled in.

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Should the SAV001 be proven safe, the vaccine will enter the second phase of clinical trials, in which it will be tested on 600 HIV-negative volunteers at high risk for HIV infection. Researchers will measure the volunteers’ immune response to the vaccine.

The third and final phase would enroll 6,000 HIV-negative volunteers at high risk for the disease. The participants, half of whom would be vaccinated and half un-vaccinated, would be tracked for three years to see how many in each group became infected with HIV.

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Corolinth wrote:
They're no more irresponsible and horny than straight males, they just have an easier time finding sex partners.


My point is not that they are /more/ horny, but that the usual sense of immortality of the young has just been armourplated by science.

What could possibly go wrong?


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Just like the HPV vaccine made young women so much more promiscuous?


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I'm rather excited about the prospects of being immune to a disease I've lived my entire life being told I'm supposed to be afraid of. If I'm still alive after I go on my cocaine and hooker binge, I'll be sure to post pictures here.

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Of the herps?

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To be honest, I'm more afraid of herpes because that doesn't really kill you like HIV(which leads to AIDS) will. I'd rather die than live with herpes.

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A vaccine would not make anyone more promiscuous. That's a terrible argument. Do hospitals make people drive faster?


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A vaccine would not make anyone more promiscuous. That's a terrible argument.

The vaccine against pregnancy did.

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http://www.cracked.com/article_19575_5-ridiculous-sex-myths-from-history-you-probably-believe.html

Apparently the Romans had a vaccine against pregnancy, and they drove the plant they used for pregnancy protection into extinction. The Puritans got it on like we would have never expected. Sexually repressed Victorian England had orgies.

Quite frankly, it's looking like the most sexually repressed culture on Earth was the United States in the mid-1900s. What happened isn't that birth control made people more sexually promiscuous, but rather the hippies cured the country of the sexual repression it came down with right around Prohibition. Possibly post-WW2. I mean, let's face it, there's a reason we have a decade called the "Roaring 20s." It wasn't just the economy that was booming.

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I would say that the Shakers were the most sexually repressed culture on Earth and the 17th century sure had it's share of repression in the US. The 1940's and 1950's weren't so much "sexually repressed", as they were "sexually discreet" - especially by our standards. There's a reason for the "Baby Boom", and it wasn't bombs going off.

Hmm, if "the sexual repression" came about right around prohibition (1920-1933), doesn't that directly contradict the idea that "It wasn't just the economy that was booming"? Wouldn't the 1920's be called something other than "roaring" if that's when "the sexual repression" "came down"?

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I did not have a definitive starting date in mind (Prohibition, possibly post-WW2 covers a rather broad span of time).

I can accept that logic. We always seem to have this idea that people are bigger sluts than they used to be, or from a different perspective, that people of old are bigger prudes than we are today.

My father once once talked about different times, my grandfather's day, etc. with regards to sexual morality. This would be the same grandfather who was an adult during the 40s and 50s, when so many recognizable sex symbols were active in cinema. The same grandfather who probably saw Gentlemen Prefer Blondes in the theater.

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I guess I just disagree with the historical markers you chose.
Prohibition = Roaring 20's
Post WWII = Baby Boom

I think the conception comes from the appearance of "discretion" versus the general increase over time of the appearance of "indiscretion". People are gonna ****, it's just a matter of whether they tell you (the general public) about it or not.

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People are gunna **** whenever they can, and since kids will absolutely put a crimp in your style, suggesting that the development of a cheap and readily available birth control method won't increase your chance to score is pretty silly.

I grew up through the sexual revolution, and yeah, that's anecdotal evidence, but still... I was there. I even remember some of the 70's! :P

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