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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 10:13 am 
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I don't know how else to explain the way they are funding the tax holiday...

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index ... ortga.html

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To keep payroll tax low, mortgage fees will rise

WASHINGTON -- The new mortgage fee to fund the temporary extension of the payroll tax cut could damp the still-sluggish real estate market and complicate efforts to overhaul the nation's wounded housing finance system.

Even though the tax cut approved Friday extends for only two months, a small fee on loan amounts will be levied for a decade on all mortgages sold to housing finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which control about 60 percent of the nation's mortgage market.

That fee arrangement also makes it difficult for Congress to work on efforts to shut down Fannie and Freddie, which federal regulators seized three years ago with a taxpayer bailout now estimated to total about $150 billion.

Based on prevailing rates for a 30-year fixed-rate loan, a homeowner borrowing $200,000 would pay about $4,000 more if the loan were sold to Fannie or Freddie. That would raise the mortgage payment about $11 a month for the life of the loan.

"Housing doesn't need any more speed bumps, and this is a speed bump," said Jaret Seiberg, senior financial policy analyst at Guggenheim Partners in Washington. "It's not a big one, but every extra penny that it costs to finance a home puts that much more downward pressure on home prices."

The collapse of the housing market triggered the Great Recession and led to a wave of foreclosures as housing prices plummeted nationally. The market has been struggling to recover amid weak economic growth and high unemployment.

The fee may make a new loan unaffordable for some people, but the effect probably would be modest, said banking analyst Bert Ely of Alexandria, Va. The bigger effect will be on the government's ability to overhaul the housing finance system, which most analysts said is needed.

"This really complicates what you do with Fannie and Freddie down the road," Ely said.

The Obama administration and some analysts have called for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to raise their fees to make it easier for private companies to compete with them. Because Fannie and Freddie are owned by the government, investors view the mortgage-backed securities they create as safer investments than those offered by private firms.

David Stevens, president of the Mortgage Bankers Association, said a fee increase would be fine -- if the money were used to offset losses at Fannie and Freddie. But diverting the money to other government uses is a bad idea, he said.

"These institutions, which have been so costly to Americans and are so necessary to the housing recovery ... should not be the piggy bank for future arbitrary tax policy," Stevens said.

"We understand the desire by Congress to extend the payroll tax (cut) because so many Americans are hurting right now," he said. "But the cost of that is going to be directly paid for by a whole other set of Americans who use Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for their mortgages."

This month, the mortgage bankers group joined with the National Association of Home Builders and the National Association of Realtors in urging lawmakers not to use the fee to pay for the extension package.

Edward DeMarco, the acting director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, also raised concerns.

He said the government reliance on long-term revenue from the firms seemed inconsistent with the need to end the conservatorship and overhaul the housing finance system.

The agency did not comment on the legislation, which President Barack Obama quickly signed Friday.

The housing finance agency will announce soon when it will implement the fee, spokeswoman Corinne Russell said. The law allows the agency to phase in the fee over two years.

Congress and the White House agreed on the fee as a way to pay for the extensions without finding spending cuts or tax increases to offset the cost.

But some lawmakers criticized the money-raising move. Rep. Tom McClintock, R-Calif., called it "atrocious public policy."

"It shifts the burden for this bill to future home buyers, kicks the housing market when it's already down, makes it that much more expensive for home buyers to re-enter the market and adds to the pressures that have chronically depressed everyone's home values," he said.

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Based on prevailing rates for a 30-year fixed-rate loan, a homeowner borrowing $200,000 would pay about $4,000 more if the loan were sold to Fannie or Freddie. That would raise the mortgage payment about $11 a month for the life of the loan.


They can retroactively increase your mortgage payments after you've already signed the contract?


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Based on prevailing rates for a 30-year fixed-rate loan, a homeowner borrowing $200,000 would pay about $4,000 more if the loan were sold to Fannie or Freddie. That would raise the mortgage payment about $11 a month for the life of the loan.


They can retroactively increase your mortgage payments after you've already signed the contract?


Why not? The federal government has already demonstrated it can violate contract law at its discretion.

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Xequecal wrote:
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Based on prevailing rates for a 30-year fixed-rate loan, a homeowner borrowing $200,000 would pay about $4,000 more if the loan were sold to Fannie or Freddie. That would raise the mortgage payment about $11 a month for the life of the loan.


They can retroactively increase your mortgage payments after you've already signed the contract?

That is why I am calling it a home-equity loan, except instead of you getting the money, they do.

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Xequecal wrote:
They can retroactively increase your mortgage payments after you've already signed the contract?

Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in the article about this applying to existing mortgages. Seems like they're only talking about increasing the fees on mortgages sold to F&F going forward.


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RangerDave wrote:
Xequecal wrote:
They can retroactively increase your mortgage payments after you've already signed the contract?

Maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything in the article about this applying to existing mortgages. Seems like they're only talking about increasing the fees on mortgages sold to F&F going forward.



I think the key is understanding that FNMA and FMCC don't issue loans, they buy them from the lender. The mortgage contract is signed before it would ever be sold to FNMA/FMCC. Therefore, it would, by definition, apply to existing loans.

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Because Fannie and Freddie are owned by the government, investors view the mortgage-backed securities they create as safer investments than those offered by private firms.

I can't :roll: hard enough.

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I think the key is understanding that FNMA and FMCC don't issue loans, they buy them from the lender. The mortgage contract is signed before it would ever be sold to FNMA/FMCC. Therefore, it would, by definition, apply to existing loans.

Yeah, but any FNMA/FMCC fees get rolled into the closing costs (or amortized over the life of the mortgage) at the time of closing, not when the mortgage is subsequently sold. So if I closed on a house 6 months ago, my closing fees were paid and my interest rate established at that time, and my lender can't now send me a bill for additional fees or raise my annual interest rate because they've decided to sell the mortgage to FNMA/FMCC and the fees for doing so are now higher than they were when we closed. It's the lenders who will have to eat the increased costs for selling existing mortgages to FNMA/FMCC, while borrowers will eat the costs (or whatever portion thereof the elasiticity of the mortgage market determines) on new mortgages.


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Right, right. However, the additional FNMA/FMCC fees will be accrued after the mortgage contract is signed. The selling of the mortgage to FNMA/FMCC occurs after all is said and done for the borrower.

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