The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:18 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:04 pm 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:36 am
Posts: 4320
Depressing.

I'll refrain from further comment lest this go directly to Hellfire.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:08 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:59 pm
Posts: 9412
I'm sorry. I could have taken that talk more seriously if the map that "has the area of each country apportioned according to its surface area on the globe" wasn't... a Mercator Projection.

_________________
"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:40 pm 
Offline
Noli me calcare
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:26 am
Posts: 4747
/shrug

I don't know that it bothers me that much. I've got a few issues with what he's attempting to sell:

1) The slides are based on country size rather than population. I'm sure Canada, for example, is not as non-existent on the research front as the presentation would have you believe.
2) The first slide is a map, a Mercator Projection*, that really distorts surface area; not a good representation of surface area, as he'd have you believe. The second slide is research papers published in 2001. When he shows the slide he tells us is change in published research papers from 2000 to 2010, he's really showing a slide that represents growth in scientific research papers from 1990 to 2001.
3) Japan has approximately 40% of the population of the US, yet in 2001 (the second slide in the presentation) the US had three times the number of papers published than Japan, the nation with the next largest number of papers published; you'd never get that from the depiction.
4) The numbers of papers published in the US grew from 1990 to 2001 (third slide), you'd never get that from the presentation.
5) Finland, for example, had an increase of 390 papers per million people, Singapore had 484 and Australia had 211. In comparison, Japan had an increase of 148. That's something that's damn near impossible to quantify based on the third slide.
6) Research is not a zero sum game. The more research the better. In 1990, 80 scientific papers were
published per million people worldwide, this increased to 106 per million by 2001. That's a good thing.
7) I'm not getting the connection between this and "how Americans treat science".

edit: D'oh, beat me to it, what Kaffis said*.

_________________
"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Image


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 20 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group