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Xequecal
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:24 pm 
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People are mad that the government can now indefinitely detain and/or kill American citizens involved in terrorism at will? No problem, just strip them of citizenship, then the detention and killing are ok!
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WTF Out of control.
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So who sponsored this bill?
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Lenas
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Sad.

I mean, I'm all for prosecuting someone involved in terrorism and if found guilty punishing them for Treason and stripping their citizenship, but you have to go through due process first.
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Aizle wrote:
I mean, I'm all for prosecuting someone involved in terrorism and if found guilty punishing them for Treason and stripping their citizenship, but you have to go through due process first.

You don't see the massive injustice in prosecuting the innocent or even the potentially innocent? Isn't it far better for the investigating authorities to determine guilt first and then hold a trial simply to demonstrate to the public how the offender's guilt was proven? That way, only the guilty ever have to endure the stress and indignity of trial.
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RangerDave wrote:
Aizle wrote:
I mean, I'm all for prosecuting someone involved in terrorism and if found guilty punishing them for Treason and stripping their citizenship, but you have to go through due process first.

You don't see the massive injustice in prosecuting the innocent or even the potentially innocent? Isn't it far better for the investigating authorities to determine guilt first and then hold a trial simply to demonstrate to the public how the offender's guilt was proven? That way, only the guilty ever have to endure the stress and indignity of trial.


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Woot! Three geek points for Taly. :D
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RangerDave wrote:
Woot! Three geek points for Taly. :D


I had Gul Dukat's voice in my head through your entire post.


Or Garak's. Either works.

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Heh, I was all about to respond with WTF how did you miss my point RD when I read Talya's post. Never watched a ton of DS9.
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I have to admit, I thought for just a moment, that RD's faculties had failed to join him at the keyboard.

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