The Glade 4.0

medicare, a public insurance option that is fantastically popular with the people who use it,... ...People are overwhelmingly satisfied with their medicare.

Google search is your evidence? Really?

Here- look at this.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline ... 9_2600.php

My research trumps your anecdotes.

National Journal is a “Washington-insider” magazine, which is what apparently separates it from The Washington Post, and frees it from all those burdensome ethical restraints. The magazine survives primarily on subscriptions from “insiders” like members of Congress, Capitol Hill staffers, the White House, Executive Branch agencies, the media, think tanks, corporations, associations and lobbyists. National Journal is part of the National Journal Group, a division of Atlantic Media Company, and the magazine was purchased in 1997 by David G. Bradley, a man who describes himself as ”a neocon guy” who was “dead certain about the rightness” of invading Iraq.

Politically, Bradley considers himself a centrist[1], although he has also described himself as "a neocon guy" who was "dead certain about the rightness" of invading Iraq[5]. In the 2008 U.S. presidential primaries he has donated $4,300 to Hillary Clinton and $2,300 each to Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.[5]

Hi guys, I'm a long time lurker and first time poster.

I greatly enjoy the discussions on these political issues as I can gain some points of perspective that I hadn't previously considered. The only caveat that I can see to these discussions is the focus on criticism without the presentation of possible solutions to the problems at hand (that is before they devolve into philosophical intelligence measuring and Monty bashing).

Thus my question is (especially to those that have intimate knowledge or experience in the respective fields) what would be the best resolution to the issue at hand? If the public option won't garner the price regulations that are required to maintain the program in the long run without overcoming private insurance and if medicare/medicaid will be bankrupt in ~8 years, what would be a sustainable solution?

/discuss

Facism is not a school of thought, it is a racial slur.

See here:
http://www.physiciansforreform.org/index.php?id=1

There's a few things on there that I'm not entirely sure about, but for the most part, I see this as being the BEST solution I've seen as yet.

To solve our problems we must first stop collusion between the government and insurance companies.

End government tax breaks for businesses that provide health insurance to employees.

I would have to say that I'm on the fence about this one. The benefit is great for those smaller businesses to help subsidize their health insurance costs for their individual employees and for some may make or break the ability to have insurance at all. On the other hand, larger corporations wouldn't be as deeply affected by any change here. Perhaps a tier benefit of some kind could work? (As in, the smaller the number of employees the greater the break)

Google search is your evidence? Really?

Here- look at this.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline ... 9_2600.php

My research trumps your anecdotes.

THIS is why I hate when the old boards get destroyed. Remember when Monty used a google image search of "bagdhad[sic] blood streets" in 3.0 to find "evidence" (in the form of pictures) that thiings in Bahgdad were as bad as he was asserting them (which was some vague measurement in his mind to justify whatever point he was trying to make) and confirm his hyperbole that the streets were literally running with blood.

Please someone else remember this.

I perused the link and for the sake of discussion, aren't a lot of the points stated on the site incorporated into the current reform initiative? I know that the main media focus is on the fight for a public option as an alternative to those nearly monopolized insurance coverage areas but I would interpret a great deal of these points (tax/tort reform specifically) as clearing up redundancies/inefficiency in the system. Any thoughts?

Ummm... very much no. Tort reform has never been part of the current initiative. Unshackling insurance companies so they can cross state lines has never been part of the current initiative. Expanding HSA's has never been part of the current initiative. If you go back and read it, most of the items in there are ideas put forth only by conservatives. I'm not sure where you're getting your information.

Hi guys, I'm a long time lurker and first time poster.

Raziel, I have several thoughts on the matter but it's been a long day, maybe later I'll make a post or a new thread about things I'd change to try to answer your question(s).

Sorry I'm too lazy to post now, sucka!

I'd also like to hear Squirrel Girls input on what she thinks should be changed.