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I did see the broadway Beaty and the Beast as my christmas gift... year before last, I think. And it was so perfect and wonderful and amazing and... I could go on for hours. Not sure it's the greatest I've ever seen, but only because I saw Phantom in it's special theater. BatB is still my favorite story, even if Belle isn't the favorite princess anymore. And even if it is really sad cause of what happened to Adam. (Beast has a name, btw.)

And that is a good point...

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I did see the broadway Beaty and the Beast as my christmas gift... year before last, I think. And it was so perfect and wonderful and amazing and... I could go on for hours. Not sure it's the greatest I've ever seen, but only because I saw Phantom in it's special theater. BatB is still my favorite story, even if Belle isn't the favorite princess anymore. And even if it is really sad cause of what happened to Adam. (Beast has a name, btw.)

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I saw Phantom of the Opera the same day I got my driver's license...over 21 years ago. I was enthralled.

BatB I saw 6 or 7 years later, and it was better. ;)

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As I've said before, I was forced to go to Phantom in high school (At Pantage's in Toronto) and thoroughly enjoyed it.

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See Phantom here. http://www.phantomlasvegas.com/


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As I've said before, I was forced to go to Phantom in high school (At Pantage's in Toronto) and thoroughly enjoyed it.


What year was that? I saw it at the Pantages in the fall of 1989. Colm Wilkinson was playing the lead, and he was far better than the hack Crawford they used in the London release.

(I later saw Les Mis with Wilkinson playing Valjean. The man is incredible.)

My point in all of this is that, visually, at any rate, Disney's Beauty & the Beast live musical surpassed anything I've ever seen before or since for live theatre.

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I miss the "That's F'ed Up" Disney. Where Disney was not afraid, nay, it was happy, to plant the seeds of hellish nightmares into young children's minds.

Things like:

- Something Wicked This Way Comes (this whole movie was just one big "That's F'ed Up" fest. awesome.)
- Return to Oz
- Pinocchio's "Pleasure Island"
- The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
- Sleepy Hollow
- Night on Bald Mountain (Fantasia)
- Pink Elephants on Parade
- The villain from the Black Cauldron
- Snow White's forest scene and witch transformation
- The banshee from Darby O'Gill and the Little People

Disney wouldn't get away with most (if not all) of that stuff today (under their pure Disney banner, not their Touchstone/Buena Vista/Hollywood Pictures aliases). I miss the Disney with the guts to give young children many more things to be afraid of at night.

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While not among their best movies, Frollo from Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996) is the most horrifying villain they've ever shown. Also, Disney's Tarzan (1999) -- a wonderful movie -- would give any child nightmares.

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Frollo certainly wins for being the creepiest ever. But over all, yeah, newer films are safer.

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Funnily enough, Frollo was voted a top 10 "hottest animated man" by women in a poll that the Nostalgia Chick did. The man did seem to be kinky, I suppose.

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Numbuk wrote:
I miss the "That's F'ed Up" Disney. Where Disney was not afraid, nay, it was happy, to plant the seeds of hellish nightmares into young children's minds.

Things like:

- Something Wicked This Way Comes (this whole movie was just one big "That's F'ed Up" fest. awesome.)
- Return to Oz
- Pinocchio's "Pleasure Island"
- The Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
- Sleepy Hollow
- Night on Bald Mountain (Fantasia)
- Pink Elephants on Parade
- The villain from the Black Cauldron
- Snow White's forest scene and witch transformation
- The banshee from Darby O'Gill and the Little People

Disney wouldn't get away with most (if not all) of that stuff today (under their pure Disney banner, not their Touchstone/Buena Vista/Hollywood Pictures aliases). I miss the Disney with the guts to give young children many more things to be afraid of at night.


Man, I miss these movies. It's about time for a marathon, I think. Return to Oz was so amazingly creepy when I was the right age.


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Aside from a particularly naff ending, I'd throw "The Watcher in the Woods" in there as well.


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The sea witch from The Little Mermaid was pretty F'ed up (collecting souls and whatnot).


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
The sea witch from The Little Mermaid was pretty F'ed up (collecting souls and whatnot).


Actually, just watching Ursula move was one of the more disturbing things in a disney movie. That was some very freaky (and well done) animation.

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Funnily enough, Frollo was voted a top 10 "hottest animated man" by women in a poll that the Nostalgia Chick did. The man did seem to be kinky, I suppose.


I will never understand other women...

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I wouldn't have put him up there.

Hmm. Top hottest animated men...not sure I could get past 5 before I got bored.

Flynn Rider (Tangled, 2009)
Tarzan (Tarzan, 1999)
Cale Tucker (Titan A.E., 2000)
Li Shang (Mulan, 1998)
Aladdin (Aladdin, 1992)
Joseph Korso (Titan A.E., 2000)
David Xanatos (Disney's Gargoyles, 1994-1996)

Okay, that's seven. I am probably forgetting some.

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Why are you guys trying to make me kill you all? The hottest animated male character of all time was Race Bannon ... otherwise known as Steve "f'in" McQueen.

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how about these?


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From left to right ...

Not hot; not hot; not hot ...

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J. Scott Campbell is an interesting comic book artist. Heh.

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And they're still not hot, because they are Disney Princesses ...

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I don't think Belle looks bad in that pic.

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And they're still not hot, because they are Disney Princesses ...

J. Scott Campbell's not doing Disney Princesses. He's doing fairy tale princesses, several of which happen to have been coopted by Disney because Walt's animators hate writing original material when they can just appropriate public domain stuff.

You'll notice he's got blonde and brunette mermaids, for instance. That's definitely not a Disney princess, though they're probably takes on the Little Mermaid.

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Yeah, but he copies disney's stylings on the characters, too, Kaffis. Ariel is recognizable as Disney's Ariel. The same with Alice and Belle and Cinderella and Tinkerbell and...you get the idea.
For instance:
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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Khross wrote:
And they're still not hot, because they are Disney Princesses ...

J. Scott Campbell's not doing Disney Princesses. He's doing fairy tale princesses, several of which happen to have been coopted by Disney because Walt's animators hate writing original material when they can just appropriate public domain stuff.

You'll notice he's got blonde and brunette mermaids, for instance. That's definitely not a Disney princess, though they're probably takes on the Little Mermaid.
That's J. Scott Campbell drawing Disney Princesses.

This is J. Scott Campbell drawing something hot ...

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What stylings for Ariel? The seashell bra? Totally not there -- his are topless with necklaces. The green fish tail? Hardly unique to Disney.

Belle and Tinkerbell and the others, moreso, yeah.

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