Aegnor wrote:
Diamondeye wrote:
Parheaps he, unlike you, is reasonable enough to understand that the entire situation was unfortunate and the officer really did not have a lot of opportunity to do anything differently.
I don't think that is his view at all. I think his point is enforcing that was because he didn't want a lot of personal attacks on the officer on his site. That is a far cry from saying that the officer couldn't have done anything differently.
One would think that if he thought the officer had simply shot his dog for no good reason he wouldn't care much about that.
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And to answer your other question, in a situation like that, where there is limited information, questions about the address, no description of the person, you don't 1) immediately draw your gun on the first unarmed person you see, 2) shoot their dog. In this case he definitely should have held off as long as possible before killing the dog, even so far as getting bit. If the dog bites him, then he can shoot him. But preemptively killing the dog in this case was the absolute wrong decision.
Uh, yes, the first thing you do IS draw your gun. He was going to a domestic violence call, with a potentially violent person there. He did not know if there first person he encountered would be armed, unarmed, violent, or much of anything.
Demanding that the officer wait until he is bitten is absolutely outrageous. There is no reason
any human being should EVER sacrifice their safety to avoid killing an animal. NEVER. This statement of yours is absolutely reprehensible. The fact that you think another person's safety is such a trivial matter simply because he is a public servant is demonstrative of everything that is wrong with the majority attitude on this board.
The dog was charging and barking. Shooting it was the right decision, the owner's protests that it "wouldn't bite him" to the contrary. Every dog that bites has a first time, and police officers do get bitten on a regular basis. Everyone thinks their household pet is all fun and games until it does bite someone.
Where I sued to live we had
A man killed by his own dogs. Granted, there were a lot of them, but dog bites are not a joking matter.
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NEW RUSSIA TWP. — A group of dogs mauled and killed a New Russia Township man Tuesday in the driveway of the state Route 511 home he shared with his father.
Lorain County Coroner Paul Matus said Michael Winters, 30, was bitten “hundreds” of times during the attack by as many as nine of the family’s dogs. Winters’ clothing was torn off during the attack, which caused extensive bleeding, Matus said.
Winters’ father, Michael Kywa, frantically dialed 911 just after 12:15 p.m. after returning to his home at 48385 state Route 511 — between Quarry and Baumhart roads near the Henrietta Township line — from the store to find his son in a pool of blood.
“My dogs attacked my son,” Kywa told a dispatcher during the call.
When asked if his son was breathing, Kywa replied that he wasn’t. He also said his son was covered in bites and probably dead.
“It’s all over the place, from head to toe,” Kywa told the dispatcher during a conversation in which he cried out several times in anguish.
Kywa, 63, also told the dispatcher that he couldn’t touch his son’s bloody body because Winters had AIDS.
Sheriff’s Sgt. Don Barker said that when deputies arrived, they fanned out across the sprawling 9.12-acre property with members of county Dog Warden Jack Szlempa Sr.’s staff to deal with the dogs, two of which were shot when they approached deputies in an aggressive manner.
During the hours-long search of the fenced-in property for the dogs, neighbors were told to stay inside their homes and media were largely kept back from the scene because of safety concerns.
Seven other dogs were euthanised at the scene, Chief Deputy Dennis Cavanaugh said. A 10th dog that was inside the house at the time of the attack was spared, he said. Barker said authorities had no choice but to put down all of the dogs, which varied in size and breed, but included a mastiff and a Rottweiler.“All the dogs are going to be euthanised,” he said. “There’s no way to tell which ones were involved.”
Kywa didn’t object to the dogs being put down, Barker said.
The dogs will be tested for diseases, including rabies, Matus said.
Barker said the only call to the home that deputies have responded to in recent years was a 2001 burglary call, but Szlempa said his office has been called out to the home twice in the past two or three years. The most recent call, he said, took place about a year and a half ago and involved several dogs attacking another dog, but no report was taken on the incident because it occurred on private property.
Barker said the dogs — many of them strays taken in by Kywa — appeared to have been well-fed and well-cared for.
“These are family pets, they love their dogs,” he said.
A neighbor also said that the family took care of the dogs, and they weren’t vicious.
You got that? These were family pets and they
mauled their own owner to death.
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