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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:19 pm 
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That's not the only reason though. A individual wolf was still a thing to be feared.

Why do you think they were so often the villains in children's stories?
(Red Riding Hood, 3 Little Pigs, Peter & the Wolf, Boy who cried wolf)
How about you stop speaking, and I'll cut you some slack.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:25 pm 
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How well does this work? If pepper spray as a defense against dogs is adequate for federal mail carriers, why is its use not appropriate for cops? Cops pretty much all carry it, do they not?


Did you not get the part where I said postal carriers are prohibited from having guns on duty? He was going to a call involving a reported violent individual; the proper thing to do was have his gun out, and based on the information he was given, there was good reason to think the man he was confronting was that individual. If he'd had to transition to pepper spray, that dog could have been all over him.


True, to avoid that, he may have had to take a couple of steps backward. Otherwise, he may have been slobbered on whilst transitioning to mace.

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How big is a dog's tooth? 2 inches? If a 40-60 lb human ran up to you with a 2 inch knife in his hand would you shoot him?


You are aware that a dog's physiology is totally different from a human's, right? Do you really think that a dog of a given weight is somehow an equivalent threat to a human of that size? I'll tell you what, let's take an armed criminal and we'll send a 90-lb German Shepherd dog after it, and then a skinny 8th grader with a small knife. Let's see who does better. :roll:


Um, I'm guessing the 8th grader? Neither has a particularly good chance, but at least the 8th grader has the sense to bob and weave.

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I don't care why the cop was there. This behavior is an ******* move. This cop is an *******. Individuals who put protocols in place to encourage this sort of behavior are assholes.


If you don't care why the cop is there, that makes you the *******. 350,000 people seen in emergency rooms annually for dog bites, and another 500,000 on top of that for other medical treatment. 4.5 million dog bites, annually in this country. Dog bites can cause permanent injury.


No, I'm pretty sure this cop is the *******. A branch in the eye can cause permanent injury. Burn down the forests!!! It's a stupid over reaction to a minor threat.

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I don't know why I should answer any more of your questions, when all you want to do is scream about "assholes!" like some 16-year-old who is mad that the adults won't do things his way. Yeah, he's an "*******" for not wanting to get bitten by a dog. **** you. Do us all a favor and never call the police.


I think it's funny that I'm calling this guy an *******, and you're getting personal with me. Get your panties out of your *** and discuss the situation at hand. Just because I'm attacking some ******* cop does not mean you should get all ***** and whiny. I'm not attacking you. If you don't want to answer my questions, don't. But don't cry about it.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:27 pm 
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Take a drink every time....
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Khross insults someone's command of the English language.
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Khross attempts to win an argument by throwing vocabulary at someone.
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Take two drinks every time...
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Take four drinks every time....
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:29 pm 
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Alright, TheRiov.

You wanna play that game? Why don't you actually prove the blatant generalization in your last post. I'm sure you've read all the pertinent (and mostly untranslated) scholarship on folktales, oral narrative, and the very linguistic morphologies of narratives that came out of Russia in the Early 20th Century right?

Better yet, let's talk about <removed> and posts on these forums. I mean, certainly, that has to be you right? The correlation would necessarily lead to causation in this case?

Your disdain for knowledge isn't not my problem. Your disdain for the English language is not my problem. Your illiteracy is not my problem. That you can't follow my posts happens to your problem. That I post like this now? Well, that's the result of me no longer caring enough about the opinions of people who don't read anything substantive anyway. I make long detail posts, you troll. I make short posts, you troll. I post anything: you troll.

You, however, post an egregious and false misconception about literature and the functions of certain objective correlatives, and I'll kindly point out your wrong and trying to over think things. I'll also point out that "wolf" is lot like "cross" -- the sign TheRiov knows is likely not even pointing at the same thing in its original language.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:33 pm 
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Diamondeye wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
TheRiov wrote:
That's not the only reason though. A individual wolf was still a thing to be feared.

Why do you think they were so often the villains in children's stories?
(Red Riding Hood, 3 Little Pigs, Peter & the Wolf, Boy who cried wolf)


Oh, ****, this was a wild wolf? I thought it was a dog, but I did know the cop was a pig.

I suppose that does change things a bit.


It's astounding that you want to act like this and honestly expect your opinion to be taken seriously. People like you are the reason that the courts make rules for the police, not the public.


First, that's just funny.
Second, I don't care if you take my opinion seriously or not.
Third, if cops don't want to be referred to by such terms, they need to work on their PR skills (i.e. don't shoot people's dogs).
Fourth, yes, some cops would have a very difficult time if the public make the rules for them - because many people don't like them (see PR statement). Although, it may provide motivation for cops to perform better.


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Yeah, donno who you're talking about. You got the word IBM right there but nothing else

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:43 pm 
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Better yet, let's talk about <removed> and posts on these forums. I mean, certainly, that has to be you right? The correlation would necessarily lead to causation in this case?


Worthy of instant perma-ban in my opinion. Or at least a solid *** kicking. With a shovel.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:47 pm 
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Your drinking game is simply emblematic of your inability to actually consider or respect anything anyone else posts. You're self-absorbed, petty little man who likes to think he's smarter than the people in this pond, but who doesn't even have enough self-respect to admit his own faults. You speak out of place; you speak out of turn; and more often than not, you speak from an position of extreme ignorance. You're trying to tell people why "wolves" appear to frequently in the variously fabula of the world, but you apparently have no knowledge of the vast amounts of scholarship done on the subject. Rather, instead of admitting you're attempting to improperly relate two things, you'd rather go forward with some personal attacks.

So, I'm just going to say this, because I've had enough of you on these forums:

If you keep posting here, I will not. You win. Now go groom your plume, preen a little, and strut around like your ego has been validated.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:49 pm 
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Khross wrote:
Better yet, let's talk about <removed> and posts on these forums. I mean, certainly, that has to be you right? The correlation would necessarily lead to causation in this case?
Worthy of instant perma-ban in my opinion. Or at least a solid *** kicking. With a shovel.
No less worthy of a ban than all the **** TheRiov has pulled over the years. He's made worse accusations ... and he trolls every he enters.

You guys wanna keep piling on me since Monty's gone. That's fine. I'll point out who no longer contributes with any real consideration of content ...

Midgen
Talya
Stathol
FarSky
Pheona
Kaffis
Khross
Corolinth
Coren
Stathol
Shuyung
Mookhow
RangerDave
Dedolito
Locz
Lex

I'll point out whose left because people have continually insulted them ...

LadyKate
Nitefox
Myrea
Most of our random posters, serial lurkers ...

And I'll point out that this place is simply stagnating under 10 years of what the **** ever right now. Quite simply, the 4 posters who dominate Hellfire now have no respect for each other or any other poster on these forums. The four of you have spent the last however long simply shouting people down. We used to post links; we used to post proofs; we used to have discussions and debates ...

Now it's mostly just those of us mean enough to throw snark into your thunderous soliloquies.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:49 pm 
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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
True, to avoid that, he may have had to take a couple of steps backward. Otherwise, he may have been slobbered on whilst transitioning to mace.


Yes, since the video doesn't show anything, I suppose it's a safe assumption that he therefore didn't move backwards. Never mind of course that walking backwards is discouraged in tactical movement due to the risk of tripping. Let's also just pretend that the dog was only going to slobber on him because, well, because that sounds really good for what you'd like to believe, doesn't it?

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Um, I'm guessing the 8th grader? Neither has a particularly good chance, but at least the 8th grader has the sense to bob and weave.


In other words, you're just going to say whatever's convenient for you. Yes, clearly an 8th-grader is the more dangerous opponent because they "have the sense to bob and weave".. maybe. :roll:

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No, I'm pretty sure this cop is the *******. A branch in the eye can cause permanent injury. Burn down the forests!!! It's a stupid over reaction to a minor threat.


Ahh yes, another thread where it's "minor" because you say so. The threat of a dog bite is not "minor".

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I think it's funny that I'm calling this guy an *******, and you're getting personal with me. Get your panties out of your *** and discuss the situation at hand. Just because I'm attacking some ******* cop does not mean you should get all ***** and whiny. I'm not attacking you. If you don't want to answer my questions, don't. But don't cry about it.


The issue at hand, as far as you are concerned at least is your subjective claim that the cops are assholes. Unless you can show me that there is some objective quality of "being an *******" that can be proven or disproven here, the only issue at hand is your personal disgruntlement and general bad behavior. You're not engaging in any discussion. You've engaged in a bunch of hasty generalization about how 'cops' are 'assholes' based on how 'they' operate. You've taken no position that can be discussed, proven, disproven, or otherwise engaged in any intellectual fashion.

So, since the only thing you've brought up so far is your personal feeling that the cop is an *******, the only thing I have to respond to is my opinion of your opinion, and what it says about you. If you don't want me to discuss that, you have 2 options:

A) State something about the facts at hand; maybe something like "I feel it was unreasonable to shoot the dog. You may find this hard, since you're unable to determine that a German Shepherd is more dangerous than an 8th grader, and apparently can't control your impulse to assume facts about events you didn't actually see on camera.
B) Shut the **** up, since if you don't bother posting your idiotic rant-fest about "pigs" and "assholes", I won't have anything to respond to.

Either way, you are not fooling anyone with your faux-annoyance about "discussing the issue". You're getting response at the same level of discourse you decided to engage in.

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Cool. 3 more drinks!

And don't let the door hit you on the way out.

But nice saving face! this way since you probably just earned yourself a ban, you can make a dramatic exit and claim it was me who drove you away, and not your own ill conceived post.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:51 pm 
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No less worthy of a ban than all the **** TheRiov has pulled over the years. He's made worse accusations ... and he trolls every he enters.

Take a drink!


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TheRiov wrote:
That's not the only reason though. A individual wolf was still a thing to be feared.

Why do you think they were so often the villains in children's stories?
(Red Riding Hood, 3 Little Pigs, Peter & the Wolf, Boy who cried wolf)

Well, to start with, only in one of those folk stories was the wolf a threat to a human. And it's a child.

Secondly, as evidenced by the other two, wolves were primarily feared because they were a threat to human livelihoods by killing and eating livestock. Again, usually in packs, though wolves are much bolder about acting alone when we're talking smaller animals like sheep and pigs.

So, I'll let my assertion stand, for now, until you start providing relevant evidence to support your claim that wolves are lethal one on one.

They can certainly be dangerous (as can dogs), however it's not normal behavior by any means, and the degree of the threat and the rarity of the behavior indicate that "shoot any dog that approaches you" is a pretty extreme point of policy.

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