The Glade 4.0

"Turn the lights down, the party just got wilder."
It is currently Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:48 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Should consenting adults be allowed to fight to the death?
Yes 48%  48%  [ 10 ]
No 24%  24%  [ 5 ]
Depends 10%  10%  [ 2 ]
Not sure 19%  19%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 21
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:41 pm 
Offline
Bull Moose
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:36 pm
Posts: 7507
Location: Last Western Stop of the Pony Express
People fight each other to the death on a regular basis, not in a duel type setting though. I see no reason to legalize or encourage the practice. These days people would find a way to use it to legalize murder.

_________________
The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:03 pm 
Offline
Near Ground
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:38 pm
Posts: 6782
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Isn't war "consenting adults fighting each other to the death" anyway?


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:31 pm 
Offline
pbp Hack
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:45 pm
Posts: 7585
I suppose at a base level. However just because x is allowed in some cases doesn't mean it should be in all cases.

_________________
I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 11:17 pm 
Offline
Lean, Mean, Googling Machine
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:35 am
Posts: 2903
Location: Maze of twisty little passages, all alike
Thought experiment!

Alan and Bob are daredevils in the vein of Evel Knievel. Being very competitive with one another, their respective acts keep getting more and more dangerous. Alan's announces his next planned show, in which he will be performing a stunt where he has a 1 in 3 chance of dying. Not to be outdone, Bob announces a new stunt which has a 2 out of 3 chance of him dying. Should this be allowed?

Change of scenario: Alan and Bob are no longer daredevils but cage fighters, and they are going to be pitted against one another next Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY in a death match. Alan has the physical advantage; the bookies all think he's twice as likely to win as Bob. Assume they're right. So by participating in this event, Alan stands a 1 in 3 chance of dying. Bob, meanwhile stands a 2 in 3 chance of dying. Should this be allowed?

_________________
Sail forth! steer for the deep waters only!
Reckless, O soul, exploring, I with thee, and thou with me;
For we are bound where mariner has not yet dared to go,
And we will risk the ship, ourselves and all.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:00 am 
Offline
Perfect Equilibrium
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:27 pm
Posts: 3127
Location: Coffin Corner
Stathol wrote:
Thought experiment!

Alan and Bob are daredevils in the vein of Evel Knievel. Being very competitive with one another, their respective acts keep getting more and more dangerous. Alan's announces his next planned show, in which he will be performing a stunt where he has a 1 in 3 chance of dying. Not to be outdone, Bob announces a new stunt which has a 2 out of 3 chance of him dying. Should this be allowed?

Change of scenario: Alan and Bob are no longer daredevils but cage fighters, and they are going to be pitted against one another next Sunday SUNDAY SUNDAY in a death match. Alan has the physical advantage; the bookies all think he's twice as likely to win as Bob. Assume they're right. So by participating in this event, Alan stands a 1 in 3 chance of dying. Bob, meanwhile stands a 2 in 3 chance of dying. Should this be allowed?


In the latter, one must die and death is the goal. Not so in the former. Both should be permitted.

_________________
"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:07 am 
Offline
Eatin yur toes.
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:49 am
Posts: 836
FarSky wrote:
Isn't war "consenting adults fighting each other to the death" anyway?

that ignores the reality of professional armies fighting conscripts.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:43 am 
Offline
pbp Hack
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:45 pm
Posts: 7585
Again I think there is a big difference between someone has to die and someone might die. You can take as stupid of a risk as you want, so long as you aren't harming others in the process. When you get to the point where death is certain, I go back to my original argument.

_________________
I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:52 am 
Offline
Has a plan
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 2:51 pm
Posts: 1584
SuiNeko wrote:
FarSky wrote:
Isn't war "consenting adults fighting each other to the death" anyway?

that ignores the reality of professional armies fighting conscripts.


Or a draft.

_________________
A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:35 am 
Offline
Manchurian Mod
User avatar

Joined: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:40 am
Posts: 5866
All that shows is that adults fighting to the death is perfectly legal and acceptable, even if both parties don't consent to the fight. I'm not sure that war is really your best example, for either side of the argument, but hey, let's go with it.

_________________
Buckle your pants or they might fall down.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:43 am 
Offline
Commence Primary Ignition
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 am
Posts: 15740
Location: Combat Information Center
SuiNeko wrote:
FarSky wrote:
Isn't war "consenting adults fighting each other to the death" anyway?

that ignores the reality of professional armies fighting conscripts.


Wars have nothing to do with the issue. Wars are between two different societies, separated as nations, city-states, or whatever political division applies to the circumstances and time period. The consent of one side hardly matters to the other in prosecuting the war effort.

The issue at hand is about people fighting with or without the sanction of the society they happen to be in (Even if they're citizens of two different ones, they obviously cannot be in both at the same time and fight).

_________________
"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 35 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 265 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group