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Grats! We had the A+/- system which screwed up my whole system. I would always bust my *** until I figured out how much effort it took to get a 92% (or determine that it's too much effort to get an A) and coast at the minimum effort required.

I figured out quickly that the amount of work required to get a 92% or an 82% is often drastically different from what it takes to get a 98% or 88%. Yet, it's the same grade.

Until the +/- system. Bastards.


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Excellence in College Algebra is an overlooked virtue.

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Is it weird that I'm looking forward to Proofs and College Algebra?

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Corolinth wrote:
Excellence in College Algebra is an overlooked virtue.


That's how I'm looking at it. Even with as much as I've forgotten over the years, I most likely could have tested into at least Calculus, or otherwise convinced the admissions office to give me credit for my IB work in high school. There are a number of reasons why I chose not to do that, but a big one is that frankly you can't have "too much" algebra. I've heard more than one calc. prof. comment that the #1 reason their students fail and/or struggle with Calculus is that they don't have good enough algebra skills. It's weird but true: Calculus is easy. Algebra is hard.

Or to be more precise, the concepts of calculus are astonishingly simple. A complete understanding of differentiation and integration can easily be taught in a one-hour lecture each. In fact, that's pretty much the first lecture of each semester of every Calculus course...ever. The difficulty is in applying those concepts to actual classes of functions. And what is that other than a whole bunch of algebra? When you get right down to it, Calculus was pretty much invented because even brilliant mathematicians think that solving these sorts of problems with pure algebra is completely tedious bullshit.

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Is it weird that I'm looking forward to Proofs and College Algebra?

They're actually going to teach proofs instead of just rote memorization of mystical formulae? Far out, man!

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Students receive an informal introduction to the concept of derivation and proof in algebra. We associate proof with geometry, but the foundation for proofs in modern mathematics lies in algebra.

What happens with calculus is that incoming freshmen often test into it, or have AP math credits that transfer. As a result, they go straight into Calculus & Analytic Geometry I or II with high school algebra skills. For the overwhelming majority of students, this is a huge mistake. The "what we're doing" part of calculus is very elegant. The mechanical process is an algebraic baptism by fire. The killer is that "analytic geometry" part of the course.

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Corolinth wrote:
Students receive an informal introduction to the concept of derivation and proof in algebra. We associate proof with geometry, but the foundation for proofs in modern mathematics lies in algebra.

What happens with calculus is that incoming freshmen often test into it, or have AP math credits that transfer. As a result, they go straight into Calculus & Analytic Geometry I or II with high school algebra skills. For the overwhelming majority of students, this is a huge mistake. The "what we're doing" part of calculus is very elegant. The mechanical process is an algebraic baptism by fire. The killer is that "analytic geometry" part of the course.


I haven't noticed anyone that has had issues resulting from obtaining AP credit for calculus. Each semester of college calculus is a year in high school, and they tend to have a pretty good grasp of algebra. Or they don't pass the AP exams.

As to your previous comment, we had 2 formal proofs courses. The first was nearly exclusively algebra-based and was very straight-forward. The second was just batshit insane. I think it was based on some foreign or alien language that I never picked up. It may have had something to do with me being overloaded with engineering classes that semester and working three jobs at the time, but I think mostly it was the aliens.


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Corolinth wrote:
Students receive an informal introduction to the concept of derivation and proof in algebra. We associate proof with geometry, but the foundation for proofs in modern mathematics lies in algebra.

What happens with calculus is that incoming freshmen often test into it, or have AP math credits that transfer. As a result, they go straight into Calculus & Analytic Geometry I or II with high school algebra skills. For the overwhelming majority of students, this is a huge mistake. The "what we're doing" part of calculus is very elegant. The mechanical process is an algebraic baptism by fire. The killer is that "analytic geometry" part of the course.

This.

My AP scores got me out of Calc I & II in college. I deeply regretted it.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
Corolinth wrote:
Students receive an informal introduction to the concept of derivation and proof in algebra. We associate proof with geometry, but the foundation for proofs in modern mathematics lies in algebra.

What happens with calculus is that incoming freshmen often test into it, or have AP math credits that transfer. As a result, they go straight into Calculus & Analytic Geometry I or II with high school algebra skills. For the overwhelming majority of students, this is a huge mistake. The "what we're doing" part of calculus is very elegant. The mechanical process is an algebraic baptism by fire. The killer is that "analytic geometry" part of the course.


I haven't noticed anyone that has had issues resulting from obtaining AP credit for calculus. Each semester of college calculus is a year in high school, and they tend to have a pretty good grasp of algebra. Or they don't pass the AP exams.

As to your previous comment, we had 2 formal proofs courses. The first was nearly exclusively algebra-based and was very straight-forward. The second was just batshit insane. I think it was based on some foreign or alien language that I never picked up. It may have had something to do with me being overloaded with engineering classes that semester and working three jobs at the time, but I think mostly it was the aliens.


Was that Linear Algebra?

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My AP scores got me out of Calc I & II in college. I deeply regretted it.


Ugh. Like anything I guess it depends on how good your classes were. But the AP classes turned 2 semesters of college coursework into 2 years. No way I was repeating that.


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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
The first was nearly exclusively algebra-based and was very straight-forward. The second was just batshit insane. I think it was based on some foreign or alien language that I never picked up. It may have had something to do with me being overloaded with engineering classes that semester and working three jobs at the time, but I think mostly it was the aliens.


Was that Linear Algebra?


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