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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:11 am 
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I am sad that this wasn't about cute gay guinea pigs. So fuzzy!

Good luck, have fun ;)


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Silly Puffin...she has been having fun. :twisted:

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I am sad that this wasn't about cute gay guinea pigs. So fuzzy!

Good luck, have fun ;)


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My first reaction is pretty much what others here have been saying...

As long as you, hubby, and Lorelai are all OK with it (obviously you all are), and the kids can handle it, to hell with what others say.

Never that easy, though. Despite your comfort with the situation, there are plenty of people who just don't get it. They'll automatically see you as some kind of deviant.

I guess the best I can offer is to really ask yourself if you can handle the questions, comments, and criticism of your chosen lifestyle. Also, what your kids may have to deal with as the parents of their friends may start to shy them away from your children.

I suspect there are more open minds here @ the Glade than you likely will encounter elsewhere in your life. I know that if my brother/friend/cousin came out with such a relationship, all I would care about is if it genuinely makes all involved happy. Hopefully you have plenty of this type of reaction when you bring this out into the open.

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I keep thinking foremost about your kids. You and your husband and Lorelei are adults and can choose your social environment and friends. If someone's an *** they're welcome to kiss yours and go away.
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I suspect once it gets out into the school community your children may face shunning and their friends' parents will begin steering their children away from yours.
This. I can't help thinking there are going to be times that you're going to feel like you've painted a big target on your kids, and that they're going to experience stresses that they wouldn't have otherwise. My only advice? This is sort of off-the-cuff and I'll wind up chewing on this a lot more, but my gut reaction is to just accept that, and in fact meet that head on and talk to your kids about that on whatever level they can discuss it with you, when they get old enough to frame the discussion a little differently. I figure the alternative to going forward and doing what makes you happy is to deny yourselves and to repress what makes you happy. Is that something you want to teach your kids? If anything, I imagine you want to teach them to pursue what they feel is right for them, no matter how hard it is, and you don't want to back off of that in this when the stakes are highest for you. I have a subtle suspicion that you don't care a bit whether you get validation from anyone else, but I think you're doing the right thing even though it almost certainly means you're laying out a not-always-easy path for more than the three of you.


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I think you are living a morally dangerous lifestyle (no surprise there), but I support your right to make your own choices. I do sincerely hope that your whole family, however it is defined, finds peace and happiness.


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Lonedar wrote:
I think you are living a morally dangerous lifestyle (no surprise there), but I support your right to make your own choices. I do sincerely hope that your whole family, however it is defined, finds peace and happiness.


I can see how a house full of honest people that love each other could be morally dangerous.

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Don't concern yourself with others. You and your husband are free to make whatever decisions you want. Your children will be fine so long as the three of you are living peacefully, and if the day comes when that's no longer the case, it'd be no worse for them than if it were only you and your husband fighting. It's a risk you take with children and relationships regardless of who's in it. Take this opportunity to mold your children into accepting, tolerant individuals and live your life the way you want to.


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Lenas:

I see no reason to mock opinions that were solicited.


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Coro said it best, but I will try anyway

If your hubby ,kids, your lady and you are all good with this and okay... who really gives a rats *** what anyone else says.

If anything there should be jealousy because you have not one person who loves you but two and they are willing to be accepting of each other as well.

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Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I see no reason to mock opinions that were solicited.


Sorry Lonedar, I hear a lot of comments similar to that and it's made me kind of contemptuous. Nothing personal.


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Do what you gotta do. As long as the folks involved are happy, the folks not involved have to deal with it (friends etc.), or suck it (strangers/acquaintances) if they have an issue. I'm sure you would put your kids interests before your own, so that isn't a concern that worries me. As for strangers and your kids, there's being "open" about your personal life and there's being "OPEN" about your personal life. You're under no obligation to be "OPEN".

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Coming out of the closet and saying, "I'm gay, I'm also straight, and I'm going to live with both partners," and soliciting opinions are two different things. Taly told us what she's doing. She didn't ask us what we thought. We all did that on our own.

In the twelve years I've known her, this is the most excited I've ever seen her about anything.

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I don't mind, though, Coro. Even when I do mind. I posted here partially because I wanted to see the less favorable responses. (I even put it in rants rather than general, for precisely that reason.)

My favorite came in an instant message from Rorinthas:

"I cannot fully agree with what you're doing, but I respect how you're doing it."

Now, if everyone who had religious/moral issues with it said it that way, I wouldn't be worried. So far, even the worst on the glade has been civil. Not everyone will be, not at first, anyway.

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My response was geared more toward the attempt to chastise Lenas, on the grounds that opinions were solicited.

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I didn't post this to argue with the others here, but... it's... the... Internet... and... someone... is... wrong!

(I kid).

Couple points though:
1) To anyone who thinks my husband is getting a raw deal here, you know he brought her into this, and ... i've been known to share.
2) Monogamy has hardly been the norm throughout most of human history. It's the norm right now, but humanity has done just fine with children growing up in all sorts of confusing family arrangements. We already know growing up with no parents is bad, with one parent is hard, and with two parents is good, yes? Why can't three be great? :) what about ancient celtic family arrangements where the entire clan raised every child as their own? The "nuclear family" ideal is hardly the only way things have been done successfully.

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Talya all I will say is this...

your lifestyle is not my cup of tea, but I will defend to the death your right to choose how you and your partners will live your lives together! Good love and good luck to you, your husband, your lover, and your children!

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Lenas wrote:
Arathain Kelvar wrote:
I see no reason to mock opinions that were solicited.


Sorry Lonedar, I hear a lot of comments similar to that and it's made me kind of contemptuous. Nothing personal.


No worries. If my beliefs wither in face of a little bit of INTERNET sarcasm, it's no smear on you, but on me.


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Good luck. I'm sure you'll encounter challenges and depending if you think you can meet them that should dictate what you do.

Just curious, would anything change if Lorelai were a man, not a woman.

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Rafael wrote:
Just curious, would anything change if Lorelai were a man, not a woman.


I was never looking at other men. I already have one.


It absolutely could not have happened, for several other reasons, too.

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Talya wrote:
Rafael wrote:
Just curious, would anything change if Lorelai were a man, not a woman.


I was never looking at other men. I already have one.


Given that she is a woman, I think this is patently obvious but that's not what I asked.

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Only question I would ask is this a 3 way equal partnership. how does she about your husband? Will she treat him with equal respect and consideration? will the challenges for attention and time?
This is a man you has dedicated 17 years of life with you, Children, finances.....

authority with children? conflicts in how to raise? who's responsible for what?
only I few of the question I can raise.

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My curiosity is killing me and you don't have to answer, but what will your sleeping arrangements be? By the way good luck and more power to ya!

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Oonagh wrote:
My curiosity is killing me and you don't have to answer, but what will your sleeping arrangements be? By the way good luck and more power to ya!

In my vivid imagination the sleeping arrangements can be summed up quite tidily in one word: "awesome"

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Rynar wrote:
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My curiosity is killing me and you don't have to answer, but what will your sleeping arrangements be? By the way good luck and more power to ya!

In my vivid imagination the sleeping arrangements can be summed up quite tidily in one word: "awesome"

Depends whose in the middle......
Sorry T Not trying to turn this off topic.

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Hmm, my concept is that Husband and Lorelei have different bedrooms and Talya sleeps with whomever she decides each night. Maybe there is a rotation set-up, but you know, it really is none of our business and some things are better left to the imagination.

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