The Glade 4.0

I qualify expert with the M16 and the M9 on popup targets. I always shoot expert in my civilian job with the .40 and the M4, and I was in the top 3 shooters at the police department I used to work for. I've never shot a perfect score at any of them, but I've been damn close. I'd say I'm a superior marksman, but not outstanding.

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Maybe if it's a complete piece of junk. A Keltec PF9 put in a vice will shoot 2" groups at 25 yards. The vast majority of handguns are more accurate than the person shooting them as long as you are firing even mediocre ammunition. There are certain ergonomic features that may play for or against a person's preference (grip angle and size, trigger rate, sear release feel etc.) but every handgun I've ever shot, I've shot equally with some practice.

I have seen some funky things, for example putting 230gr cast 10MM auto through a stock Glock 20 barrel, but those are special hand loads. It's analogous to firing a 62gr load out of a 14.5" 1:12 AR barrel. It just isn't set up properly.

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I'm guessing best shout is all relative. Type of gun, ammo etc..

I've never been much of a ranger shooter at all. Plenty of property around here to sight in whatever I need.

How well I shoot really depends on what I'm shooting at and with what (then you factor other conditions like light, wind, shooting across a draw) and it's all kind of wonky.

I've done a little competition shooting and it's just too boring for me to take. If I hit was I'm aiming at, I think I'm a pretty good shot. /shrug

I still love my .243 and can hit a deer in the back of the head at a dead run at 220+ yards every time.

I'm just as good with my Browning .270 auto, but it's not quite as flat for the bigger distances so I get a couple inches off depending on target speed.

Winchester lever action 30-30 I know I can consistently hit a milk jug with open sights at 100 yards. I mostly just use it for a brush gun.

30-06 I have made some pretty long shots with in the coast range elk hunting. Much longer than I prefer to get the damn things back. I know one was at least a single kill with 650 yards. I've hunted antelope in Nevada with it too, and I don't enjoy it. Kicks like a damn mule and crawling on my belly isn't my idea of fun.

I don't know quite the distance but 22-250 shooting sage rats we were out at least 600 yards.

My good Ruger .22 I can get some long and lethal shots at 120 yards. My other probably has so many rounds through it, it probably wouldn't even qualify as a grouping. heh.

My 45-70 I've never used at more than 50 yards, but I think the concussion alone would kill whatever I'm shooting at. It's just too expensive to shoot and time consuming making rounds. Turns squirrels into red mist tho.

My Glock 40 caliber I just keep with me when hunting for finishing something off, or running across a something that needs scaring away. Same with my .22 ruger target pistol. I'm better with that than the 40, but I've had it so many more years.

I'm tired so we'll cover shotguns another day.

I'm sure there are Gladers that could outshoot me any day. I'm just not much on paper.

LOL probably close to true
Then only weapons we own that my wife hasn't shot are
My 7mm Mag (with the right conditions and patience) is good out to 1500 yards
My custom .308 (Rang the Gong at 1 mile with it) But that gun isn't a fair comparison, completely reworked by Dillion precision.
Every other long gun we have she shots just as as I do, some she just flat out better than me. Get out of the way if she's got her 30/30 and we're yote hunting.
Her with a pistol, Just live in fear.... She took my 9mm Xd put 1 mag through it to get a feel for it. Then put up a fresh target and shot a Smiley face in it at 15 yards.
With shotguns she does very well Sporting clays we're about even, skeet I can beat her, trap she wins, Olympic bunker trap I won't even try against her last time she shot a 24 to my dismal 17.
For mother's day I bought her a pearls and a 38 special ultra light. First time out at the range I loaded up the gun with a mix of rounds light recoil to P++ for her to try out.
She wasn't amused, but all shots were in the x ring at 10 yards. Needless to say I'm not allowed to load her guns anymore.

My youngest daughter(13) is up in coming. give her her .22 or .17hmr and watch the prairie dogs fly. She just recently got her first shotgun, A 20 gauge semi auto.
first round of sporting clays ever she shot an 18. she got the rabbit runner every time it was presented (I'm lucky if I get that 60% of the time).

My wife's an Iowa Farm girl grew up with 7 brothers and sisters hunting fishing, trapping was a way life.

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In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

Hmmmms ...

What action did that .308 use?

As for determining whose the best shot on the Glade, I can tell you it's not me, even if I do own a rifle capable of shooting 14" groups at 2 miles through iron sights.

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Base rifle is a Savage, It's an accutrigger With a breaking point at .75 pounds

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

At that range, 1 Second of Arc would result in .677 inches of drop or overshoot without taking into account aerodynamics. Is this a custom bolt-action?

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The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Mine is a 1879 Springfield. I guess you are not familiar with the Sandy Hook tests?

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I'm pondering this ... I'm not sure a Savage is where I'd start with a .308 unless you did something that doesn't come to mind. PM me?

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Haha I see what you did there.

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Huh, what did I do?

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By the looks of it I'm not going to take top shot honors here. My most memorable feat outside the Army was breaking my 1000yrd cherry at the range with my .308.

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Hopwin:

Guns are more accurate tools than their owners by and large. My comment about the rifle was a reference for gun enthusiasts, who likely knew exactly what I meant when I said it.

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The fact that Khross owns a rifle capable of performing that well in the hands of a skilled marksman does not mean Khross is capable of equaling that feat. Few will ever be.

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Like I said in the other thread, rifle or pistol, guns are more accurate than we are by a long shot as long as you aren't shooting complete crap. I've seen guys shot 1.5" groups at 23 yards with 75,000 round Gen 1 Glocks.

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The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Ayup. I also meant to remind people that startling distances are not new or something unique to modern weaponry. Trapdoor Springfields, particularly the 1884, could toss huge, accurately rifled slugs of lead tremendous distances with reliable precision and had sights for the job (without glass).

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I gave Khross the specs on it yesterday. But yes it's a custom bolt action pretty much everything on has been changed, modified and adjusted, the ammo used is also custom, loads and bullets. What can I say I have a friend that works for Dillon as part of his job he gets to modify and play with guns to extreme extent, Part of their R&D.

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

In the event of poor shooting, it was a malfuntioning Doombot, obviously.

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Nope, I did google that and read a synopsis of the basis for these tests, how they were conducted etc. These seem very rigorous indeed.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Now I want a damn m-14. Or an m-1 since I don't care about the happy fun time switch.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

I've got one, other than cleaning it's a lot of fun.

Looking at a weatherby chambered in 300 wby this week May pick it up . Brand new in box, never been fired. Probably can get for around 30o, current owner won it at raffle and has know interest in it

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

I'm trying to pick up a 1911 pistol but I'm torn between the ruger sr1911, the s&w e series, a colt govt80 or Springfield a-1. I think its going to come down to aesthetics.

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A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. ~ John Stuart Mill

I have a Kimber Custom MK 2 and I love it.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

My Kimber Pro Carry HD 2 is pretty awesome, as well. I don't think I've met someone who bought a Kimber 1911 and regretted it.