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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Sperm, counter to some’s perceptions, aren’t little superman(s) and incapable of flight. They are more like little blind Michel Phelps, on steroids, going for gold and can only move in liquid.

Think of the little opening in the cervix as a pool of jello. When a woman orgasms, the consistency of the jello decreases, giving our little blind swimmer better chance to swim through.

But before all that, men also have evolved ways to up their chances, commonly known as ejaculation. Through out history, there have been claims where the force of the solo act have been known to propel their little blind swimmers to unbelievable heights.

So while I’m tempted to say due to the lack of female orgasm, most rapes produce a less chance of impregnation. The truth of the matter is, there is neither data or any studies to support such a theory. There is however allegations to suggest some woman fake orgasms in bed, making a double blind study on this topic unfeasible.

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The real frightening thing is the "legitimate rape" issue. He seems to be leading down the road of "if you got pregnant than it wasn't rape".


This, and the way he positioned his comments leads down the road to not considering date rape as "real" rape. He comes off as a horribly misogynistic bible thumper, who is happy to blame the victim to further his anti-abortion agenda.



You've got to be kidding. Lay off the Kool Aid man. It's statements like that that assure me that the non elected public isn't much smarter than Akin.

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Think of the little opening in the cervix as a pool of jello. When a woman orgasms, the consistency of the jello decreases, giving our little blind swimmer better chance to swim through.

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Come on people! We all know there are good and bad, smart and stupid, idiots and morons on both sides of the equation...er, aisle. Even third, fourth, fifth, etc parties aren't exempt from this crap.

Can't we all just get along?? ;)

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Politics 101: If something embarrassing is said by your side, play it off as "just a gaff," and condemn critics by saying they're ignoring real issues by focusing on it. If it's said by someone on the other side, it's that person's true feelings exposed in a Freudian slip and will be immediately enacted into unconstitutional law, likely through some sort of arcane ceremony involving eyes of newt and virgin sacrifice.


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Well, I'm glad so many on Akins' "side" apparently didn't pay attention in that class.

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I'm laughing.

First at the actually saying of it. Then at the outrage from his own party. Then at his insincere apology. Then at his refusal to step aside thinking he can win anything after that. Now at the people trying to defend him without looking like they are defending him. Reality is stranger than fiction.

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Reality is stranger than fiction.

Even weirder, he is STILL winning his race! WTF????????

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It's still early. Perhaps people don't buy that he's some evil harbinger of the short skirt defense or maybe his opponent is just that unpopular.

Maybe his intent was to make the point of "why blame the baby" he and tripped over his brain on the way there.

I think if we had a 24 hour news cycle following us around and trying to trip us up it could happen to any of us.

He probably should have gotten out of the race, but it his choice to make. I'm sure the other side would have tried to loose that too.

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Lenas wrote:
Let's forget about one man's idiocy in favor of getting mad about unrelated topics!

I'm not saying the dems you guys are talking about don't deserve ridicule or punishment, but let's not move goalposts. This guy is an idiot and should not be in the position he's in, that's what this thread is about.


I think media hypocrisy is always relevent. A Republican makes a stupid comment on rape and the front page is alive with all sorts of theories tying him to the current (supposed) nominees. The other side commits statutory rape and its buried "below the fold".

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Let's forget about one man's idiocy in favor of getting mad about unrelated topics!

I'm not saying the dems you guys are talking about don't deserve ridicule or punishment, but let's not move goalposts. This guy is an idiot and should not be in the position he's in, that's what this thread is about.


I think media hypocrisy is always relevent. A Republican makes a stupid comment on rape and the front page is alive with all sorts of theories tying him to the current (supposed) nominees. The other side commits statutory rape and its buried "below the fold".



This can not be repeated enough.

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Hannibal wrote:
Lenas wrote:
Let's forget about one man's idiocy in favor of getting mad about unrelated topics!

I'm not saying the dems you guys are talking about don't deserve ridicule or punishment, but let's not move goalposts. This guy is an idiot and should not be in the position he's in, that's what this thread is about.


I think media hypocrisy is always relevent. A Republican makes a stupid comment on rape and the front page is alive with all sorts of theories tying him to the current (supposed) nominees. The other side commits statutory rape and its buried "below the fold".


Who is that supposedly that's commited statutory rape?


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Aizle wrote:
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Lenas wrote:
Let's forget about one man's idiocy in favor of getting mad about unrelated topics!

I'm not saying the dems you guys are talking about don't deserve ridicule or punishment, but let's not move goalposts. This guy is an idiot and should not be in the position he's in, that's what this thread is about.


I think media hypocrisy is always relevent. A Republican makes a stupid comment on rape and the front page is alive with all sorts of theories tying him to the current (supposed) nominees. The other side commits statutory rape and its buried "below the fold".


Who is that supposedly that's commited statutory rape?



SEE!!!!!!!!!

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It should be noted that I'm not a good barometer for if something has been in the news. I basically don't watch TV at all, we don't have cable and I rarely listen to the radio or even check CNN online anymore. Basically because I don't really care, the vast majority of the news of the day isn't worth my time.

That said, I'm interested in researching this bit of hypocrisy that you guys are upset about, so an actual answer instead of thinking that you've won the interwebs would be appreciated.


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Aizle wrote:
It should be noted that I'm not a good barometer for if something has been in the news. I basically don't watch TV at all, we don't have cable and I rarely listen to the radio or even check CNN online anymore. Basically because I don't really care, the vast majority of the news of the day isn't worth my time.

That said, I'm interested in researching this bit of hypocrisy that you guys are upset about, so an actual answer instead of thinking that you've won the interwebs would be appreciated.



I was just being funny. Honestly, I've not heard of what Hannibal is talking about either.

As for your hypocrisy comment...not sure if you say that about this particular issue Hannibal is talking about or in general. But just for comparison, I read something yesterday or earlier this week comparing what this goober said to Joe "the walking Gaffe" Biden's "Put you back in chains" comment. The Akin comment has recieved 4x times the amount of attention.

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Nitefox wrote:
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It should be noted that I'm not a good barometer for if something has been in the news. I basically don't watch TV at all, we don't have cable and I rarely listen to the radio or even check CNN online anymore. Basically because I don't really care, the vast majority of the news of the day isn't worth my time.

That said, I'm interested in researching this bit of hypocrisy that you guys are upset about, so an actual answer instead of thinking that you've won the interwebs would be appreciated.



I was just being funny. Honestly, I've not heard of what Hannibal is talking about either.

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Nitefox wrote:
I was just being funny. Honestly, I've not heard of what Hannibal is talking about either.


Gotcha.

I assumed that since you posted how that Hannibal's post couldn't be restated enough you knew who he was and decided that it was true for yourself.


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Aizle wrote:
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I was just being funny. Honestly, I've not heard of what Hannibal is talking about either.


Gotcha.

I assumed that since you posted how that Hannibal's post couldn't be restated enough you knew who he was and decided that it was true for yourself.



No, just the when it's a Dem/Lib=low coverage, when a Pub/Con=big coverage.

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Politics 101: If something embarrassing is said by your side, play it off as "just a gaff," and condemn critics by saying they're ignoring real issues by focusing on it. If it's said by someone on the other side, it's that person's true feelings exposed in a Freudian slip and will be immediately enacted into unconstitutional law, likely through some sort of arcane ceremony involving eyes of newt and virgin sacrifice.


Yes, this is quite true. In fact, it's really not unsurprising that the Democrats are making a big stink over this; it's a smart election-politics move for them. Were the situation reversed, the Republicans would no doubt be doing the same thing.

That said, "mysogeny" is in exactly the same place as "racism" in our society. Mild gaffes are treated as evidence that the gaffe-maker is some neanderthal hell-bent on declaring a "war on women", just like any racial sentiment that does not serve the purposes of the left/Democrats is leapt upon as evidence that the speaker has a white hood in his closet. This happens even when the sttement itself has no racial component but there's an excuse to attribute it to race, such as the "You LIE!!" outburst.

In many ways, the Republicans and the Right are to blme for both of these sentiments because they've rewarded it by going straight into defense/disavaowel/apology mode at the first sign of outrage from the left. What the Republicans should be doing t this point is just saying "Yes, this was a foolish, clumsy way of expressing an idea that's of questionable veracity to begin with [the idea that rape trauma stops successful pregnancy], but it is not 'scary', it does not mean we're going to do away with the rights of women or rape victims, or anything like that. Stop being absurd; this is a very minor issue."

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Forget it.

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Aizle wrote:
It should be noted that I'm not a good barometer for if something has been in the news. I basically don't watch TV at all, we don't have cable and I rarely listen to the radio or even check CNN online anymore. Basically because I don't really care, the vast majority of the news of the day isn't worth my time.

That said, I'm interested in researching this bit of hypocrisy that you guys are upset about, so an actual answer instead of thinking that you've won the interwebs would be appreciated.


Kinda my point. I only caught this buried at the bottom of a regional news webpage from Minnesota. Its state Rep Kerry Gaulthier. He admitted to giving oral to a 17 year old behind a truck stop. It looks like the local DA wont pursue the criminal sexual conduct of the 4th degree.

Hey maybe its a non issue for folks, but honestly so should Akins comments. He should be denounced by his peers and then ignored. The political poo storm that's erupting is annoying me. Its so blantently partisan that it actually obscures the seriousness of his comments. That just leads me to believe that most folks don't give a flying #### what was said except how it helps their candidates. Just get the sheep running in a direction.

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Its state Rep Kerry Gaulthier. He admitted to giving oral to a 17 year old behind a truck stop.

That is some seriously hardcore service to his constituents. Or hardcore pandering for votes, take your pick based on whether or not you want to justify voting for the guy.

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I've watched a lot of porn, and oral is never categorized as hardcore.

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Depends if there's a penis involved, and to what extent. If there's a penis going *kaboom!* all over someone's face, it's hardcore.

It's sort of like how the thumb makes all the difference. If you've got eight fingers and no thumbs inside of an orifice, it's perfectly fine. Once the thumb goes in, it's fisting, and therefore obscenity.

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Facials are not hardcore. In order for oral to be hardcore, there needs to be, like, seven dicks. Likewise, you have to cross the bukkake line for facials to be hardcore.

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