The Glade 4.0

The government shouldn't be using my taxes so Sandra Fluke can have more sex or so PP can kill more children. If they can't do those things via private funds on with money they make on their own, sucks to be them.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

The government also shouldn't be using my money to get soldiers killed in Afghanistan.

But its give and take.

Also, BC isn't *only* used for contraception purposes and PP doesn't *only* do abortions.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Of all the girls I've known who take birth control, only a very, very small percentage take it for teh sexxorz. Generally, condoms suffice for that. They take it for its myriad other uses as hormone regulation in order to do things like, say, function as a normal human being without being confined to a bed writhing in agony for three or more days, missing school and work because the pain is so great.

You may not agree with the conflicts but the constitution makes specific comments about military and the such. Not so much about some attention whore who can’t drive 2 miles and spend 9 bucks for birth control out of her own pocket. And if PP is so needed, it should be able to stand on it’s own without using my taxes.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

What are you talking about? This sure doesn't look like agony:

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

HEY! Give that back!

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And *I'm* the intolerant one. I like that she's automatically an attention whore because she's taking BC. Which, incidentally didn't have anything to do with spending *your* tax dollars on BC, just that it should be included in PPACA as a federal mandate that *private* insurance plans would be required to cover it.

Also, BC is more than 9 bucks.

To speak to the other point, let's go ahead and vilify *all* of PP while we're at it. After all, where else are low income women going to go to get pap smears, breast exams, gynecological care, counseling, education and other such things? I mean, screw them! (metaphorically of course, if we're not giving them lifejackets, wouldn't want them to drown.)

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Holy shitsnacks!

/tongue/cheek

Aspirin sure is expensive out there in California!

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Some posters here continually amaze me.

I think that Christian teachings involve compassion, helping those less fortunate, etc.

And then I see that while they probably do involve that, it's definitely not in (some peoples) every day focus.

And before someone bends it out of shape and things I'm over generalizing, this should obviously be read as a quite specific post.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

That California smog getting to your brain? Who said anything about tolerance? Who’s being intolerant? And yes, she is an attention whore in my opinion. Isn’t whore an acceptable part of your vocabulary?


http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... th-control

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Dont' be shy, say what you want to say to me.

Thing is, you don't know anything about me or what I do to help people. So unless you have that insight, I suggest you keep your personal amazment to a minimal level there chief.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

Fair enough. Be interesting to see what forms are covered by that price, but I'll concede that.

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Holy shitsnacks!

I guess it depends, but we pay *way* more than that for birth control a month.

And no, our insurance doesn't cover it. My wife's OB, however, is often quite nice about giving a few months worth of samples each year.

And given issues with unemployment, limited resources, and general overpopulation, I'm quite happy for some of my tax dollars to go towards helping people *not* contribute to the problem.

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

Yes, Christian teaching involves compassion et al, the Gov't forcibly taking money from people and using it for whatever purpose the Gov't choose is pretty far removed from those teachings.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

That would be you that's intolerant. But that's ok, I know that Jesus teaches that in all of his gos... wait... He doesn't?

Oh. ****.

Yeah.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Except the government is non denominational. They steal from *everyone*.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Hmmm, wonder why it costs so much.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko

What exactly am I being intolerant about there big boy? Have you become such a puss that if someone disagrees with you they intolerent? Please enlighten this bitter clinger.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

I was more referring to tone of statements and manner, but I do get your point.

However, the same individuals usually seem OK with the Gov't taking money from other individuals, and using it for other things that the Gov't chooses (Wars, war on drugs).

And heck, even supporting taking *more* money from some people, just because they don't agree with their lifestyle (tax break for married heterosexuals vs homosexuals, for instance).

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Darksiege: You are not a god damned vulcan homie.

It's a mystery!

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Mostly this.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Nah, not really. Its big pharma and their patents on drugs.

Hell, I have an inhaler that I use to control my asthma that's almost $400. For one inhaler. But, its the only thing that's really ever worked as a long acting inhaler for me. /shrug

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Holy shitsnacks!

Military conflicts are covered. Even then it doesn't mean I agree with every one we get into.

Your issue with lifestyle choices is also a swing and a miss. I'm all for the government getting out of that as well.(and for the billionth time, homsexuals are not discriminated against when it comes to marriage). You should be up in arms about all the single people. They are the ones getting screwed.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Those individuals would be just as wrong as people saying that it's "compassionate" for the Gov't to take people's money and give it to those who "need" it or "deserve" it for reasons they agree with.

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"Dress cops up as soldiers, give them military equipment, train them in military tactics, tell them they’re fighting a ‘war,’ and the consequences are predictable." —Radley Balko