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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:05 pm 
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I have no problem with it being a proprietary connector cable, especially right after the device comes out.

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Let me get this straight... Apple buying silicon semiconductor chips from Texas Instruments is a scandal which means you should boycott iPhones?

Start boycotting every electronic device you own, guys. I got bad news...

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Let me get this straight... Apple buying silicon semiconductor chips from Texas Instruments is a scandal which means you should boycott iPhones?

Start boycotting every electronic device you own, guys. I got bad news...


Nono, and putting them in their *cables* to keep their **** at $30/40 each is the shitty part.

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That's still stupid expensive.

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD824 ... m?fnode=45

Is the $40 option.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... JEBEPMCMAI

$3.

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Good lord get over it. ***** isn't going to reverse the decision and you aren't even an Apple fan anyway.


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It's not shitty if the cable requires a semiconductor-based electronic component. (Here's another clue: Every adapter these days requires a semiconductor-based electronic component.)

It sounds to me like Apple contracted a new component from TI, who then designed and built it.

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It depends on what the chip does and if third party manufacturers can easily get compatible chips. If the chip's entire purpose is to provide a digital signature saying it's Apple(tm) brand, then that sucks. If the chip adds some new functionality to the cable, then that's ok.

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Apple is **** proper. I saw a hipster with an iPhone 5 today. It was a very Wtf moment until she told me that Apple is so passe that it is now ironic to own their products.

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I call bullshit. No one talks to hipsters willingly.


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Cable chips are neither new, nor solely about lockin.

My understanding is that the 30 pin adapter is a DAC. Its how it provides analogue audio/video output over only 9 pins.

Thunderbolt cable is active, not just wire to wire - i.e the chip does stuff.

Lightning at least dynamically assigns pins depending on how its inserted.

Has anyone seen any proof the lightning chip is authentication? Everything i've seen is just speculation.


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All I am saying is there are a lot of recent moves (lawsuits, maps, changing the cable making it more expensive) that are causing me personally to seriously reconsider who I am going to "buy" my next phone from.

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Good lord get over it. ***** isn't going to reverse the decision and you aren't even an Apple fan anyway.


But its fun :p

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I don't see anyone going into Android threads and shitting all over them.


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I don't see anyone going into Android threads and shitting all over them.


Because I like Android :)

And I'm the one that does it to iStuff anyway because of the ridiculous mindset that Apple is the tech messiah and can do no wrong with their perfectly awesome fantastical devices.

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Ive actually read analyses online that suggest lightning is forward compatible with USB3, etc.

Building for the futar, the chip could be anything.

(Or it could be authentication :-) )


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Ive actually read analyses online that suggest lightning is forward compatible with USB3, etc.

Building for the futar, the chip could be anything.

(Or it could be authentication :-) )


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That doesn't look like "lightning".

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And I'm the one that does it to iStuff anyway because of the ridiculous mindset that Apple is the tech messiah and can do no wrong with their perfectly awesome fantastical devices.


No one on this board has that opinion. Even if 'Skee, Sui and myself were fanatical about Apple, we're still not the idiot tech sheep you seem to try to be white knighting for. We all understand technology pros and cons. There's a catch 22 here, in that we wouldn't need to defend Apple if people that weren't even their customers didn't **** on them all the time.


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And I'm the one that does it to iStuff anyway because of the ridiculous mindset that Apple is the tech messiah and can do no wrong with their perfectly awesome fantastical devices.


No one on this board has that opinion. Even if 'Skee, Sui and myself were fanatical about Apple, we're still not the idiot tech sheep you seem to try to be white knighting for. We all understand technology pros and cons. There's a catch 22 here, in that we wouldn't need to defend Apple if people that weren't even their customers didn't **** on them all the time.


You assume that I'm aiming at you, Skee and Sui ;)

I'm really not. My ire goes to the true iTards(of which, I don't think there are any here really). And its not even really ire, just disdain for the most part.

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To be fair Lenas, Apple shits on their customers a lot more than 3rd parties do.

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I keep hearing that Apple shits on their customers, but I have yet to experience that.

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Likely because actual Apple customers are happy :P


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Likely because actual Apple customers are happy :P


So are sheep once they've been sheared ;)

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So does this mean you're saying Lenas and I are sheep? Because personally, I take a bit of issue with that.

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