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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:33 am 
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So, I'm surrendering my geek card, as until this week I had never watched the Syfy reboot of one of my childhood favorites.

So, after deciding to take some time out of work to deal with my concussion, I decided it might be a good time to do some Netflix power-watching.

And let me just say, damn. This show is **** great.

Sorry I'm late to the party.

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the acting and dialogue are phenomenal, as is the directing.

The plot arcs are frustrating though. They needed JMS or someone to show them how to write a story arc.

Don't buy into the 'plan' the cylons have. There isn't one. And when they start that "Final 5" and prophecy stuff... just understand that the writers were dropping plot hooks with NO idea where they would lead.


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Yar! Welcome aboard!

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Rynar wrote:
So, I'm surrendering my geek card, as until this week I had never watched the Syfy reboot of one of my childhood favorites.

So, after deciding to take some time out of work to deal with my concussion, I decided it might be a good time to do some Netflix power-watching.

And let me just say, damn. This show is **** great.

Sorry I'm late to the party.


Simultaneously one of the best and most frustratingly bad series i've ever watched.

The problem was the writers created a mystery with no idea for how to solve it, they didn't expect it to last, and they had no plan for where to take the story when it became a big phenomenal hit. Is it worth watching? Yes. Just don't expect the story to have been satisfying in the end.

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Wait.. syfy reboot of BSG ?

Are we talking about this?
http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/about


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On second watch, the story is *much* better.

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Midgen wrote:
Wait.. syfy reboot of BSG ?

Are we talking about this?
http://www.syfy.com/battlestar/about

Yeah.


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Rynar, do not surrender the card so easily man, I just finished the show last week sometime.

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I loved it. Right up until...

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Starbuck came back from the dead and poofed in the final.

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I loved it. Right up until...

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Starbuck came back from the dead and poofed in the final.


On second watch, it made a ton more sense and wasn't as infuriating.

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See, I always thought the story issues were the result of the writer's strike.

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seriously major spoiler
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the writers admitted they had no idea who the final five cylons were when they made it a plot point. those 5 just happened to survive, end up on the same ship. obviously the writers were going for a hand-of-god manipulation in events but that makes Starbuck a Deus Ex Machina of the worst sort.

and other abandoned plot points
Starbuck's prophecy, of leading them to their doom, (or was it end) --abandoned
The significance of the opera house and the various visions people had about it - revealed to make no sense for as little sense as they made of it
Gaius Baltar revealing that there are only 12 cylon models in the pilot -- abandoned
Boxley - abandoned
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I am glad to have watched the show once. It was a decent journey. But it's one of those shows that I will likely never watch again and the type that the more you think about afterwards, the more your realize it wasn't as good as you thought.

But, again, I am glad to have at least invested time watching it. Unlike Heroes.

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I loved this show when I first started watching it.

It became unbearable towards the end though...


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I loved this show. Loved it. The ending doesnt ruin the journey. Dont be put off by this thread ;)


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SuiNeko wrote:
I loved this show. Loved it. The ending doesnt ruin the journey. Dont be put off by this thread ;)

I'm already completely commited. If the show is good enough that it's conclusion draws this kind of ire, it's a must watch anyway.

No one cares when bad shows have shitty endings.

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Rynar wrote:
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I loved this show. Loved it. The ending doesnt ruin the journey. Dont be put off by this thread ;)

I'm already completely commited. If the show is good enough that it's conclusion draws this kind of ire, it's a must watch anyway.

No one cares when bad shows have shitty endings.


This is an interesting point.

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I don't know that I would call the ending 'shitty'. I just didn't like it. Some people did.


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Midgen wrote:
I don't know that I would call the ending 'shitty'. I just didn't like it. Some people did.


It isn't just the ending, though I think you'd be hard pressed to find many people who liked it. It's the entire approach to the series that became evident as it continued -- it was a serial with a deep, continuing story arch, that the writers made up as they went along. They had NO idea where they were going with the story, so where it feels contrived and deus ex machina, they really were just pulling stuff rom their collective asses. It's actually incredible that it ended up as good as it was despite this clear lack of direction.

I'm still not sure what's better: great production values, effects, acting, and directing combined with TERRIBLE plot writing (BSG), or terrible production values, effects, acting and directing combined with INCREDIBLE plot writing (B5). And why can't we just combine the best points of both?

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I was satisfied with the ending, but they did leave a bunch of stuff hanging that they set up and never panned out.


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Jhorra wrote:
I was satisfied with the ending, but they did leave a bunch of stuff hanging that they set up and never panned out.

This, was very pleased with the outcome. Was glad they dropped some of the crap they dropped.

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Talya wrote:
it was a serial with a deep, continuing story arch, that the writers made up as they went along. They had NO idea where they were going with the story, so where it feels contrived and deus ex machina, they really were just pulling stuff rom their collective asses. It's actually incredible that it ended up as good as it was despite this clear lack of direction.

Wait, when did we start talking about The X-Files?

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Kaffis Mark V wrote:
Wait, when did we start talking about The X-Files?

that's a comparison i make often, actually.

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Talya wrote:
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Wait, when did we start talking about The X-Files?

that's a comparison i make often, actually.


And both were great television series.


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Slythe wrote:
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Wait, when did we start talking about The X-Files?

that's a comparison i make often, actually.


And both were great television series.


Both worth watching, anyway. And both so horribly frustrating near the end...

I wrote:
Simultaneously one of the best and most frustratingly bad series i've ever watched.

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