The Glade 4.0

People who begrudgingly buy a new desktop PC, only when their current machine is barely functional for modern uses, are not the target audience for these new devices, or Windows 8. These are targeted at people who push technology, and are willing to invest time and money into the latest (and best performing) technology.

If you like your current computer and Windows 7 (or XP, or whatever), by all means, keep using them. No one is going to force Win 8 on you.. by the time Win 7 is obsolete, we'll be much farther down the road, and the 'market' will have sorted itself out.

Didn't you crap on my donkey for saying Microsoft missed the boat by coming out with tablets + keyboards rather than pure tablets?

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Huh? I've loved their design for Surface since they showed it back in June. I thought the keyboard cover was an awesome idea. It's the best solution I've seen anyone offer for the portability of a tablet with the functionality of a laptop. The best "hybrid" by far.

Since it's coming out tomorrow, here's are all of the reviews of Windows 8 that I can find:

http://www.techradar.com/us/reviews/pc- ... 002/review
http://gizmodo.com/5934932/windows-8-re ... incredible
http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/23/3537 ... s-8-review
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012830/ ... eview.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/m ... eview.html
http://www.slashgear.com/windows-8-review-20252507/
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/25/tech/inno ... index.html

Finally read this thread. It looks hideous. Forget it.



No. That's pretty much completely wrong. When developing new technology, the last thing that should ever change is the interface.

Fewer clicks are not better, either.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Partly true.

Fewer clicks are always better *if* the location remains intuitive.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Fewer clicks are only better if the original number was truly excessive to begin with, and the acceptable number of clicks is directly proportional to the obscurity of the task.

Either way, reducing from 2 clicks to 1, or even from 4 to 3 is not an improvement. Reducing from 7 to 5 might be. From 4 to one means you most likely have put a function that should be moderately out-of-the-way entirely to prominent.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

No offense, but after the iPhone 5 thread, I'm going to disregard your opinions on new technology. The fact of the matter is that tablets are a form factor that people love and is blowing up very quickly (not up for debate), and the old way of using Windows isn't acceptable on a touch device.


Yes, it is.

Since my opinions in the iPhone 5 thread have nothing to do with the technology, and everything to do with certain corporations using an expensive device and an expensive service I pay for as a way to foist crap on me I don't want when I try to get the functions I do want, that's rather silly. I don't have any basic problem with the physical phone, nor even the android system in and of themself. I have a problem with the fact that Verizon has the gall to tell me I can't delete an NFL "app" that I don't care about, want, or need.

I don't have any problem with a newer, better operating system. However, better comes from greater speed, efficiency, power, versatility, and things like that. Cutesy new interfaces are not better, no matter how miserly they are with clicks.


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No, it isn't. That's entirely subjective.

Interfaces are subjective things. How "good" they are depends on the user. A person who does not want change is not "doing it wrong". The only ones doing it wrong are the company that forces change without leaving the old way an option.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

As much as I dislike the Win8 changes, I am strangely intrigued by the Surface Tablets.

Not the neutered RT ones, the real Win8 version.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Tablets are an exception to my feelings. They completely suck. I will never own a tablet, and won't ever allow one in my house. If I ever find out my kids school sent one hoime, she'll be homeschooled, and the tablet will meet my sledgehammer.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Obviously you're not interested, because all of those things come with Windows 8, at the slight cost of an easy-to-learn interface change.



Might as well cryogenically freeze yourself now, then.

http://bgr.com/2012/07/03/tablet-shipme ... ooks-2016/

Wait what?

Tablets are freaking awesome. They're far better than carting around 50 pounds of textbooks.

You have some serious issues with technology sir. I mean, may as well purchase a cane and a porch and a front lawn to yell at kids to get off of.

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Holy shitsnacks!

That's what I'm saying. Such technological bias, I'm surprised DE even manages to get into his car and drive to work every day. You'd think he'd prefer a horse and carriage.

This, I think Microsoft was dumb to add the keyboard cover because it is too laptopish. And.I think the tiles in win8 are ugly, cluttery and annoying. Widgets and icons please.

I will probably get one to use as a TV remote with Xbox and smartglass though and who knows, I may end up loving it.

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I dunno, the KB cover is pretty naff Not the flimsy one, the real one. And I'm with you on tiles.

My Note 10.1 has an IR transmitter that works my DTV box etc. So much <3.

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Holy shitsnacks!

No, I don't have issues with technology.

Books are better for reading. It's easier to see what you're reading, they don't run out of power, and they don't get finger smudges all over the screen. Simple tablets that are only for reading and nothing else are ok, but universal tablets like Ipads are horrible.

They are too small, flimsy, and delicate to make a useful computer, too big for a pocket, and they are a distraction from life. Phones are bad in that regard, but the actual phone function is useful Tablets are not.

They simply don't have a decent space budget. That's why desktops are great. Hell, my graphics card is bigger than 4 of my phone put together. That's real, useful capability. It also doen't get moved around or easily damaged, and my kids cannot insist on taking a desktop on a family trip and whine incessently when deprived of it.

The school one is worse. Schools are not trustworthy with electronics. If you're going to get a portable electronic device get a phone if you need a phone, a laptop if you need a computer. A tablet's space budget is simply inadequate to be a real computer and anything but an actual keyboard sucks for typing. Touchscreens are acceptable only on phones and only because the phone is so small an adequate keyboard is almost impossible and slide-open keyboards create a structural weakness in the center of the phone.

But keep going with the horse and carriage jokes, by all means.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Almost all of your complaints about technology seem to stem from a fear that your children will embrace it.

If you offered me a paperback book, or a pdf file, I would take the pdf in an instant. I have all of my gaming books on my Note, the entire Honor Harrington series, probably a dozen more books, 6 GB of music, apps, photos, social networking stuff, etc. All of that is at my fingertips and easily accessed. I can tether my tablet to my phone or my 4g hotspot and access the whole of the interwebs.

I tell ya, if I had this thing in High School or College, it would have been a freaking godsend. Especially if I could have gotten all of my textbooks on it. Carrying 30 pounds of dead trees is nowhere near as preferable as carrying a 1 pound tablet.

As a laptop replacement, its pretty useful. I find it perfect for reading books, watching stupid **** on the internet, posting here... etc. With the addition of a Bluetooth KB, its a perfectly serviceable word processor, spreadsheet creator, social networker, etc.

I even use it for work, with Splashtop, I can remote into my desktop at the office while I'm on site and work on someone's VoIP deployment. I don't need to drag my laptop around from desk to desk as I check for authentication, and voicemail setups.

Seriously, man. Get with the times.

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Will do. That entire post was a confirmation that you're willfully ignorant to current technology and its capabilities.

No, it was pretty much a confirmation that you don't understand that not everyone wants technology in their life way you do.

The simple fact is that understanding technology im a sciemtific sense dors not entitle you to tell anyone else how it ought to be used, and an unwanted new interface is exactly that - arrrogance.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

If by "embrace" you mean "make the center of their world and obssess over the way kids already do" then maybe.

It strikes me, though, that My livelyhood doesn't revolve around electronics, and I've already raised a kid to adulthood.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Cause they're not useful as educational devices.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Way to totally ignore what I said about schools not being trustworthy with electronics.

How many kids do you have? Do you know just how distracting electronics are to kids? I already made the mistake of getting my first kid a Wii and letting her have a computer in her own room. Never again. Now they're family devices. There will be absolutely no electronics int he house my wife and I don't control and that includes school tablets. Tablets in general are a waste of money, and school tablets come from federal grants. They are inexcusable. Kids learn better with attention from a person, not a gadget.

As for all that about getting with the times, there is not one reason you cited to get a tablet besides lower weight. It sounds like a recipe for failing out of school to me. It;s a good thing there was no EQ when I was in college; I never would have survived.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."

Your kid's discipline has nothing to do with how useful technology is or isn't.

I bet my cousin lugging around 30 pounds of textbooks during his four years of high school due to poor locker placement sure would have appreciated a one pound device that could have held 5,000 of his books.

I had EQ in high school and college and I did just fine.