The Glade 4.0

Not who do you want to win, but who do you think will win?

The establishment will win the election. The American people will continue to lose.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

I want neither to win, Obama will though.

I'm not sure yet.

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I prefer to think of them as "Fighting evil in another dimension"

Here's the thing about this election.

Obama is the first black president. It would be exceedingly embarrassing to the black community if he didn't win reelection. Only a party composed entirely racists would want to do that. Mitt Romney is racist simply for running against Barack Obama. In fact, he's even more racist than John McCain, because where McCain simply tried to prevent black achievement in the first place, Romney is actively trying to undo black progress.

A Republican victory in November is the absolute worst thing that could happen to the party. It would be absolutely devastating. Republicans would no longer be able to argue that they have equality as their core interest, because they would have taken away the first black president. Freeing slaves and ending segregation are simply the actions of long-dead historic figures who have nothing to do with the Republican party. The GOP of today are vicious racists who really do want to see all black folk back in chains.

If Romney wins, within twenty to thirty years there won't be a Republican party. They will dissolve as everyone decides they're too racist to receive any more votes. The Democrats will split in half so that the United States feels like it has a choice in elections.

Republicans now have to decide whether you'd rather have Romney as president, or see the party die. It sucks, but that's just the hand you've been dealt.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Indeed. In fact, this statement should probably be in the past tense.


"The establishment has won the election. The American people have lost."

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

The Republicans have this thing locked up. The simple question of "Are you better off now than you were four years ago?" has completely overshadowed the question of "will you be better off four years from now?"

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I honestly feel like it's to close to know. Last election it was pretty clear McCain didn't have much chance against Obama.

LOL who voted "Other"?

Whatever you're smoking, please share!

Up until the economy crapped out, McCain was leading. McCain stopped his campagin and Obama kept swinging.

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"It is true that democracy undermines freedom when voters believe they can live off of others' productivity, when they modify the commandment: 'Thou shalt not steal, except by majority vote.' The politics of plunder is no doubt destructive of both morality and the division of labor."

Goldman Sachs

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"...but there exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom." - De Tocqueville

Vladimir Putin

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Holy shitsnacks!

I did. See my post above.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

SO how will the election play out. It could be interesting to see. 8 states have and DC have passed the law that gives their electoral college votes to the winner of the National Popular vote.
The total electoral college vote to the winner of the popular vote is 132.

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

Not necessarily. Those 132 votes could all go to the loser of the popular vote depending how those votes are apportioned among the populace.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

no they can't, those states passed laws that give the winner of the National popular vote the electoral college votes for that state.
only 2 states have proportional electoral college votes Maine and Nebraska.
Oddly enough it's all blue states that passed this law.
This could very well turn into unintended consequences.

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

I don't think he ever had a chance. It was a perfect storm where no matter who you put up against Obama he was going to win. The only person who had a chance of beating him was Hillary Clinton. Given a choice between the two I would have actually taken her.

Washington State is a "Winner-Take-All" state. 11 Electoral votes guaranteed to Obama and the blues, despite the fact that the state is mostly red geographically. The Seattle/Tacoma/Everett metro area always carries the majority of the vote. Apple farmers and the central and eastern portion of the state, have no chance.

Which is why the EC needs to not be WTA.

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Holy shitsnacks!

Washington is is A national popular vote state.
On April 28, 2009 — Governor Chris Gregoire signed the National Popular Vote bill, making Washington state the fifth state to join the "Agreement Among the States to Elect the President by National Popular Vote." Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, and New Jersey previously enacted the National Popular Vote bill.

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History of the Condom
In 1272, the Muslim Arabs invented the condom, using a goat's lower intestine.
In 1873, the British somewhat refined the idea, by taking the intestine out of the goat first.

And we have 12 Electoral votes now. I was obviously reading outdated info.

http://www.270towin.com/states/Washington

We'll see I guess...

Oh, national popular. Gotcha. I missed the word national the first time.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Are you working for The Onion now?

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Raell Kromwell

Unfortunately, no. And if you stop to think, you'll realize more people in the country actually do think that way than you're really comfortable with.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Not enough for that absurd scenario to actually occur.

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"Hysterical children shrieking about right-wing anything need to go sit in the corner and be quiet while the adults are talking."