The Glade 4.0

Ok, so I don't know if any of you remember or not but about 2 1/2 years ago I met this woman who I had a crush on and ended up becoming friends with who knew I liked and who flirted with me and clearly acted like she was interested in me but never wanted to date me.

Well anyways fast forward things kept going along those same lines and her flirting increased and the way she acted around me cleary showed interest, I mean to the point that my best friend (who's also her highschool friend) asked on several occations if we were dating because of the way we both acted together.

One time when her girlfriend at the time was there as we were leaving the dance we were at it as raining slight and I had an umbrella and as we walked to the cars she was under my umbrella with her arm around me and her hand in my pocket as he girlfriend was standing a few feet away.

Also 1 glass of wine and she would be trying to kiss me and ask me why we never dated cause we would be great together (her words not mine) and even one time we went to maine together overight just the two of us when we were laying in our seperate beds she got out of her bed and climbed onto mine over me and and me and just stayed there for like a min looking down at me, didn't say anything, then got off and went to the bathroom and back to her bed, of course any of those times I didn't do anything cause I wasn't going to take advantage her when she was drunk cause I care to much about her to do that.

So anyways finally back in the end of May I got to the point where I couldn't deal with it anymore, I had fallen completely in love with her but despite the way she acted towards me she still didn't want to date so I pulled away and stopped contacting her and only replying to anything messages she sent with a simple answer to whatever she was asking trying not to get a conversation going.

Now that went on for 3 months where I hardly talked to her and didn't hang out with her, then all of a suddent she started back up text me non stop, apparently she thought I was mad at her so just gave me space, but that wasn't the issue so finally ended up writing a long email to her telling her my feelings completely and that I just couldn't keep doing this and couldn't see, talk, text, email or anything with her anymore, and she said she would respect my wishes and not contact me again, so that's the end of it, right? sadly nope, I wish.

Since then at least once a month she still text me to say she hopes i'm doing well, etc, then this thanksgiving she sends me a text saying she hopes I have a wonderfull thanksgiving full of bessings, Love XOXO, now it wouldn't have been so bad if that was just a mass text she sent out to all her friends, but nope, that was just to me, my best friend, her highschool friend, she never even sent her a text at all on thanksgiving.

I seriously don't know what to do anymore at this point, these head games of her and putting me into the worst state of depression i've ever been in, I wish she would just figure out what she wants or leave me alone like I asked her too :/

maybe she is signalling she wants to date now?

I don't see how you're confused? The woman is interested in you. Tell her you want to be in a relationship.

Except it's just more of what she's been doing for the past 2 1/2 years, and she knows my feelings for her so I would think if she wanted to date she would just ask me out.



She already knows I want to be in a relationship with her though, she's know for 2 1/2 years.

I think she got drunk so you could take advantage of her. An ice breaker, so to speak.

She likes you. Maybe she's scared of "**** up a good thing".

You should have taken advantage of her :p

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Holy shitsnacks!

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I'd have to agree.

Also, you aren't taking advantage of someone when they crawl into your bed. She got drunk in an attempt to take advantage of you.

sometimes people want to be asked.

Call her and ask her out.

Heck, send me her number and I'll call her and ask her to meet you somewhere. This has been going on too long Sassy. Practically, you're not going to get any more miserable over this.

Call her up and ask her for a date, a real date. Plain and simple, its not dinner, its not friends getting together, its a date, and if she gets drunk again, be gentle, but play it through. Time to put up or shut up. Assume she is still interested in you and the two of you have been dancing for so long you haven't noticed the band has packed up and gone home. You can't both be the one to ask the other out.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Ditto on what everyone else said.

Worst that could happen is she says no and you can then move on.

You'll never know if you don't ask.

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This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays.

Nah, she knows me well enough (better than most anyone else really cause we were very close) to know I wouldn't ever take advantage of her so I wouldn't think she would have expected me to.



Well if she tried to take advantage of me there wouldn't have been a problem then, though I do question what would have happened and where things would be now if I had done anything then.


I just don't know if I could ask her out now, I mean it's not like she hasn't known I have feelings for her and she's more of the agressor when it comes to dating so I would think if she wanted to date me she would have asked me already.

Though I do think she's afraid of commitment, I mean she always says she wants someone who would commit but since i've know her every single woman she's dated had commitment issues(either currently married women or ones that told her flat out they don't want a commitment) and basically everyone but her knew the relationship was doomed from the start.

She knew that the relationships were doomed as well. That's probably why she was in them. If she's truly commitment-phobic... that's prolly the explanation.

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Holy shitsnacks!

She's still waiting for you to ask her out.

She appears to be is afraid of commitment - her choice of partners would indicate that. Her behavior towards you shows she does have feelings for you.

I really enjoyed Boston and meeting you. do I have to physically be there to push you into her arms? Take a shot Sassy, what do you have to lose? If she says no, you're where you are now.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Michael is wise.

Ask her point blank for a date. And make sure you kiss her if you get one, even if it's just a kiss goodnight.

The results of that conversation or date should let you know what your next course of action will be.

i think you're rationalalizing excuses to chicken out and not ask her out again for fear of rejection.

physically, no, emotionally though actually getting rejected by the only person i've ever been in love with I would be in a much much worse place.



Yeah, probably since I don't have any self confidence when it comes to dating, but I just have a hard time thinking she would say yes because she knows my feelings for her already, if someone confessed their feelings for me and it was someone I liked I would ask them out, I certainly wouldn't wait over 2 years to see if they would ask me out.

But you're not her. You're not the one that's afraid of commitment. :p

Take a shot, Be Agressive B-E-Aggressive! Goooooo Sassy!!!!

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Holy shitsnacks!

I've come to realize recently that I let my own insecurities drive me to not take risks, and not take chances. That fear of rejection has been something that has held me back for a very long time.

But I should listen to my instincts. And so should you. If you THINK they're attracted to you then do something about it. It might be a mistake, it might hurt, and you might be hurt down the road, but you wont know until you try.



The cat is alive more often than not.

Great Schroedinger reference TheRiov. Kudos.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

I hear that, I am tempted to try taking Zoloft because it apparently boosts self-confidence and raises rejection tolerance as a side-effect. I just worry about what impact it would have on my emotions.

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I've never taken Zoloft. My wife took it (almost 19 years ago) after being hit hard with post partum. She had all the emotional content of a zombie going through their daily search for brains. It was so different from how she usually was it was scary. She also had no interest in art or music during that time - that was very unlike her.

YMMV - just make sure you're working with a competent doctor when trying out the psych meds.

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The U. S. Constitution doesn't guarantee happiness, only the pursuit of it. You have to catch up with it yourself. B. Franklin

"A mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." -- Tyrion Lannister, A Game of Thrones

Today is a new day. The past is irrelevant, other than as a learning experience, put it where it belongs: in the past.

Or to use the gaming vernacular...

Less QQ more Pew Pew

That's like being a newb at racquetball and saying "I KNOW I should take those risky corner shots!". You're still a newb regardless.

The only way to get better at this stuff is do lots of research and go out nearly every day with the purpose of interacting with women. Like practicing a sport, most of your faults magically auto-correct if you go out a lot. You make lots of mistakes in the process. It takes 2 or 3 years to get good at a sport. Same thing with the opposite sex.

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"The map is not the territory."

The key is to minimize the severity of the rejection. If you say hi to a girl and she smiles and walks away, that is rejection. However it isn't a deep harmful rejection that will emotionally cripple you. You need to take your rejection in many small doses until you build up your tolerance to try riskier actions. It's called progressive desensitization. You don't need medication for this.

If I could, I would ask for a phone number every time because it's funny. But I can't handle that amount of rejection. It would make me feel really bad. So I only ask for phone numbers when it seems right.

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"The map is not the territory."