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They wouldn't let them come into work drunk either I'd imagine.

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I went to work after smoking one time.

It was the most productive day I've ever had.

Sorry, but I'm calling bullshit on this..

Give it 5-10 years of 10%/year health care cost increases and employers won't be tolerating these anymore. My employer doesn't allow tobacco use, that's going to become the norm when they have to do it to be able to offer health care without going bankrupt on it. A good number of employers are also going with automatic termination for any alcohol-related offense (DUI, public intoxication, etc) to try and discourage that.

In all honestly it's the only work day I can remember where I wasn't checking the internet every 10 minutes (like I am right this second) for something to distract me. I was in the zone all day and I even got some new site features created that I now use daily.

I'm not saying that would be a normal experience, or that anyone should even do it, but that's what happened the one time I did.

I have never, and will never, use marijuana, and if you would have asked me five years ago I would have been in favor of continuing the ban on marijuana. Now, however, my position has changed quite a bit for a few reasons.

1) It is completely obvious that prohibition of marijuana does not work at all in curbing use of the drug.
2) Prohibition increases crime, similar to the way prohibition of alcohol gave birth to the mob.
3) Marijuana, while definitely not good for you in most cases, is much less harmful than many other products that are legal. In fact, the worst thing caused by marijuana use currently is the legal issues involved with getting caught.
4) You have people like Obama joking about having smoked marijuana. Meanwhile peoples lives are ruined from getting caught smoking it. If Obama had been caught, there is no way he'd be president now. LSU's CB whatshisface (Honeybadger) has likely lost millions of dollars in potential earnings by being caught.

If the "cure" is significantly worse than the disease, then you need a new cure.

Different situation.

Marijuana can be detected for months after the high is gone. It'd more like if they fired you for having had a drink at home in the last several months.

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Yeah... if you are pulling hairs for your testing...

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The same is true for pee/blood, just different windows of time.

Well, considering that the two situations I gave were construction and nursing, yes, nobody wants a drunk in those situations either. And yes, I have seen a nurse's aide get sent home because she came back from lunch reeking of beer. It's quite possible she wound up before the nursing board for a substance abuse at work complaint. Dunno if it happened since she was from an agency and not directly employed by my hospital.

It may be that THC is getting a bum rap from insurers because it actually is listed as an illegal substance and stays in the system for so long. This might make it hard to quantify a legal intoxication limit. Alcohol, meanwhile, is only active on the CNS while its still unmetabolized in the body. So unless someone's so far into an alcohol addiction that it is actually affecting their work performance, or drunk during a random UA or blood test, its not likely that an insurer is going to know.

It's not necessarily logical, its insurance

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Its ok. ObamaCare will fix it.

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Holy shitsnacks!

I suspect before Obama is out of office, Marijuana will no longer be a Schedule 1 controlled substance, making all of these state efforts moot.

Until then, not much can happen as long as this exists in this form.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act

As far as I know, no emplyers test for THC. That would require a blood or saliva sample. Urine and hair samples are for detecting COOH THC, the presence which would not indicate impairment. In fact, the presence of the metabolite probably indicates that impairment has already passes.

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I don't get how you can act like this is meaningless just because it's still against federal law. This is a huge step. State and local police will not be arresting people for simple marijuana possession. Theoretically they could hold you until federal agents come and prosecute you under federal law... but that's not going to happen. So if you are possessing/selling marijuana in these states, you only need to worry about federal agents now, and I don't know about you, but where I'm from I don't see them wandering around too much. I guess it's an issue for distributors who might be targeted, but it's still a huge step forward for the people in these two states.

Not sure anyone did.

Yeah, maybe no one said it was "meaningless." I guess I'm talking more about the general attitude I'm seeing here dismissing this as not a big deal because it's still against federal law.

It's obviously a big step towards total legalization. We're just discussing what the current ruling means for ordinary people. The state laws weren't the only barrier.

Sure, but the DEA isn't in the business of busting individuals, really.

But they have no problem raiding dispensaries. See my link somewhere above...

Oh yeah, here it is:
http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=83417

The countdown to Obama raids in CA is somewhere around 37ish days now.

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Not 'meaningless', but I consider it a largely symbolic event until they decriminalize growing and distributing it (on a federal level).

Quick and easy way around that is enacting a very quick california law revoking federal permission to do anything about CA medical MJ dispensaries. While the federal courts would overturn it, it would allow you to have local police arrest federal agents trying to shut down the dispensaries.

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We'll see. California shouldn't be very high on the fed's priorities at this point.

Hop... Its 2012.

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Holy shitsnacks!

LOL, didn't even notice that.

So, yeah, they didn't do ****.

Seattle Police Departments enforcement policy regarding marijuana

http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2012/11/0 ... n-seattle/