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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:55 am 
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I thinks it's interesting that now he isn't going to testify for the Benghazi hearings.


Since when? Everything I've heard says that he can still testify.

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Heh. I finally watched The Daily Show segment on this. :)

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David Petraeus and the New Style of American Politics

Posted By Robert Spencer On November 12, 2012 @ 10:08 pm In Uncategorized | 25 Comments

If you believe David Petraeus really resigned as CIA director over an extramarital affair, you probably also believe that Muhammad filmmaker Mark Basseley Youssef is in prison because of a parole violation. It is much more likely that both Petraeus and Youssef herald the dawning of a new style in American politics – or else Barack Obama is the luckiest man alive.

It has already been widely noted that the timing of Petraeus’s resignation was perfect for Barack Obama: on the same day that the House Foreign Affairs Committee announced that it would be calling the CIA director to testify about the ever-widening Benghazi scandal, he abruptly resigned over an extramarital affair. Now Petraeus won’t be testifying, and one of the most important witnesses as to what really happened when jihadists attacked the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, and who ordered those who would have defended Ambassador Chris Stevens and his colleagues to “stand down,” has been removed from the scene. Petraeus had already said that he issued no such order, which makes it strongly likely that Obama himself did so; but now Petraeus won’t be around to say so one way or the other.

Obama was just as lucky that Mark Basseley Youssef, the apparent producer of the Muhammad video that Muslims blamed for their recent international orgy of riots and murders, turned out to be a marginal character with a criminal record. Obama, Secretary of State Clinton, and other Obama administration officials denounced the film repeatedly and vehemently, but according to Charles Woods [1], father of Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods, who was killed in Benghazi, Clinton went even farther, saying of the Muhammad filmmaker: “We’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted.” But there was just one insuperable obstacle to this Sharia-compliant scenario: the First Amendment — until, lo and behold, it turned out that Youssef was on probation and that one of the conditions of his probation was that he not use the Internet. And so now he is serving a year in prison for the probation violation.

The Feds got Al Capone for tax evasion when they couldn’t make more serious charges stick, and when they couldn’t imprison Youssef for violating Sharia blasphemy laws, they got him for violating probation. Or maybe Mark Basseley Youssef really did have the bad luck to land probation officers who were unusually scrupulous. Maybe it is just a total coincidence that suddenly they decided that this probation violation was the one that they could not and would not tolerate, while untold numbers of other violators of probation still roam free today.

And maybe it was just another coincidence that Petraeus had his attack of conscience over his affair and resigned on Thursday, the very same day that Fox News reported [2] that the Foreign Affairs Committee was planning to call him to testify. But the whole episode is reminiscent of the fate of inconvenient officials in totalitarian states who are popular or powerful but fall out of favor with the Man In Charge, who is duly shocked (shocked!) to discover a moral indiscretion on the part of the inconvenient official, necessitating his immediate removal despite his power or popularity. Of course, the U.S. is not a totalitarian state and Obama is not a totalitarian ruler, and undeniably Petraeus violated the military code of conduct; but in an age when members of the president’s party routinely sneer at such codes, and given the timing of the resignation, Obama is either supremely lucky or resorting to tactics that have not been much prevalent in the American public square before. These tactics need scrutiny, and resolve on the part of the Congress to find out what really happened and hold the president fully accountable.

General Petraeus is shaping up to be the fall guy of the Obama administration and the harbinger, along with Mark Basseley Youssef, of something entirely new in American politics: the elimination of the politically inconvenient by means of a pretext that satisfies a bored and indifferent populace and serves as a cover for goals altogether more sinister than is immediately apparent.

Or maybe Barack Obama and his administration are as honest as the day is long, and it is all just… coincidence.

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This story is getting weirder:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi- ... 9930.story

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- Broadwell harasses another woman
- The other woman complained to a friend in the FBI
- The friend in the FBI had been sending the other woman shirtless photos
- The other woman was exchanging thousands of emails with another married general, this one running the show in Afghanistan
- Friend in the FBI was ordered off the case because he was personally involved, and he told Rep. Eric Cantor in October
- Cantor told the FBI prior to the election about the call, but did nothing further
- Gen. Allen is now under investigation for the inappropriate emails.

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Why would his resignation preclude him from testifying before Congress?

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Mookhow wrote:
Why would his resignation preclude him from testifying before Congress?



Not real sure. I would think Congress could still get to him.

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Nitefox wrote:
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Why would his resignation preclude him from testifying before Congress?



Not real sure. I would think Congress could still get to him.


Then where did this come from?

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I thinks it's interesting that now he isn't going to testify for the Benghazi hearings.


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Aizle wrote:
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Why would his resignation preclude him from testifying before Congress?



Not real sure. I would think Congress could still get to him.


Then where did this come from?

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I thinks it's interesting that now he isn't going to testify for the Benghazi hearings.



Because I've read that he isn't going to testify? I don't get what you are gettin at. I'm confused about that as well.

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I've since read one article (don't have the link handy) that stated the Acting Director will testify instead now, but Sen. Feinstein has said they may still ask Petraeus to testify.

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Just curious what the source of the comment was NF. You didn't link any article but I didn't want to assume anything.


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I don't recall the specifics, and can't be bothered to dig up references, but I think a lot of media are writing that he isn't going to testify, simply because he was scheduled to testify before all of this happened, and now he isn't scheduled to testify.

That doesn't mean that he won't every testify under any circumstances. It just means that there are currently no plans for him to testify.

If I were a betting man, i'd bet Aizle's next paycheck that he will never testify before congress....


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It's not impossible to get Petraeus to testify, but it is more difficult if he doesn't want to. He's a private citizen now, which considerably reduces Congress's power to compel him to testify.

As to the weirdness and the convenience, Obama may well be the luckiest man alive. The coincidence is striking, that is true. However, it is far from unlikely or uncommon for younger women to find themselves attracted to older, married men in positions of power and influence, and the fact that an Army or Marine General is likely to be pretty damn fit at or close to age 60 doesn't hurt either. As for the Generals themselves, being a General is lonely. Command is lonely. I don't mean to excuse either of them, but they're still men, and the attentions of a young, attractive women put personal willpower to the test. That's not to say it's ok to cheat, but rather that, if yout think this is all some elaborate political cover-up, that you may be conveniently underestimating just how powerful the human sex drive is.

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Just read that Petraeus will testify on Friday. That should be very interesting.

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Nitefox wrote:
Just read that Petraeus will testify on Friday. That should be very interesting.

Probably not nearly as interesting as you think.

In fact I am willing to bet it will be downright boring as ****.

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Hopwin wrote:
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Just read that Petraeus will testify on Friday. That should be very interesting.

Probably not nearly as interesting as you think.

In fact I am willing to bet it will be downright boring as ****.



I guess I should change that to "could" instead of should.

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I wonder if the fact that his wife is overweight made a difference in his behavior. I'm genuinely curious. Guess it's impossible to know either way.


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http://www.theonion.com/articles/wideni ... s-b,30368/

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Widening Petraeus Scandal Reveals Human Race Has Been Having Sex For 200,000 Years

WASHINGTON—Following the recent revelation that former CIA director David Petraeus conducted a protracted extramarital affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell, sources confirmed today that the far-reaching scandal has widened to reveal that mankind, otherwise known as the species Homo sapiens, has been engaging in sexual intercourse for the past 200,000 years.

“While the situation appeared at first to be limited to this one sexual relationship between Gen. Petraeus and Ms. Broadwell, we see now that it is far more extensive than we had initially believed,” said an FBI official who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the ongoing investigation. “Indeed, evidence shows Gen. Petraeus is, in fact, just one of literally billions of human beings who we now believe have on numerous occasions engaged in sexual intercourse over the last several hundred millennia.”

“No matter how far back we go, we just continue to find more and more corroborating proof of people having sex,” the official added. “There’s simply no end in sight.”

Officials were reportedly first alerted to the allegations after the discovery of thousands of documents this week, including e-mails, letters, and photographs, which led them to believe that millions of other people beyond Gen. Petraeus have been having sex since perhaps the middle Paleolithic period, and continue to have sex today in various partnerships and in all 196 countries worldwide.

A further investigation into the matter then revealed not only that people have been frequently engaging in sex throughout modern history, but also that they have been doing so at least since the first precursors to modern humans gained the ability to walk upright, and that sexual intercourse is a natural biological function that may indeed be widespread and prevalent throughout all human eras.

“The scope of this scandal is simply astonishing—there is currently enough evidence to implicate individuals from every part of the world, even dating back before the creation of modern international states,” said one source close to the investigation, adding that the FBI has collected millions of first-person accounts of people who have either had sex themselves or witnessed others performing sexual acts. “There are even thousands of hours of video evidence that cyber-security experts in D.C. and Langley have managed to find on the Internet.”

“The real question is, ‘Who knew about this? And for how long?’” the anonymous source added.

According to reports, a comprehensive global probe jointly conducted by the FBI and CIA also revealed that, in addition to Gen. Petraeus, others alleged to have had sex in the past include Leon Panetta, Condoleezza Rice, Ben Bernanke, George Stephanopoulos, John Lennon, Charlotte Brontë, Jack Nicholson, William Shakespeare, Andre Agassi, Plato, Ulysses S. Grant, Queen Elizabeth II, Ted Avery of Dayton, OH, George Washington, Karen Avery of Dayton, OH, every past and present member of the band Chicago, Sir Isaac Newton, Bill Gates, Andie MacDowell, Benjamin Franklin, Leonardo da Vinci, Vince Lombardi, and Adolf Hitler.

“A closer look at the evidence indicates that even the earliest primates engaged in acts of sexual intercourse,” said Dr. Jacob Reynolds, a historian at the University of North Carolina. “We have even discovered lewd depictions engraved on stone tablets dating all the way back to 10,000 BC in what is now modern-day Turkey. But it is very possible that this controversy stretches back farther than any of our historical records.”

Reynolds confirmed that in addition to human beings, many well-known animals are also thought to have engaged in sexual activity, including millions of bears, sheep, goats, and even numerous fish and insect species.

Furthermore, sources indicated that sexual activity may extend all the way to the White House.

While the full extent of the investigation is not known at this time, sources said the FBI will likely continue looking into the matter until “everyone and everything involved in this matter is brought to light.”

At press time, officials estimated that roughly 15,000 human beings are having sex at this exact moment.

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Talya wrote:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/widening-petraeus-scandal-reveals-human-race-has-b,30368/

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Widening Petraeus Scandal Reveals Human Race Has Been Having Sex For 200,000 Years

This has all been a plot by the Obama administration to deflect attention from Benghazi! IT'S ALL SO CLEAR NOW.


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I wonder if the fact that his wife is overweight made a difference in his behavior. I'm genuinely curious. Guess it's impossible to know either way.

You need more Meghan Daum in your life.

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