The Glade 4.0

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/10/gop.congress/index.html

40/39 on who should be running the country. Down 25 points in less than a year. I think the people are catching on.

The chickens is comin' home to roost, y'all.

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The Dude abides.

either that or such polls normally swing wildly after post-election high lets down.

Please, lets all jump to conclusions. The American Public is notoriously fickle.

You know, this really doesn't help to combat the image that Republicans are nothing but a bunch of rednecks....

Well, ok. It's down 15 points since 9/2007. Somewhere around 20 points since before the election.

So....

of course one could argue that the debate over health care has been the biggest factor and the heavy heavy lobbying campaign against the democrats (the heaviest I've ever seen in a non-election year) and 'public option' has a lot to do with it. Anyone got the figures on issue-spending on political advertising this year?

I can't tell if you're actually being serious there.

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The Dude abides.

Democrats have dropped the ball on Health Care. They have become too frightened of a tiny, extremist and vocal minority, and are ignoring reams of polls that show the public *wants* a robust public option.

So they are losing support at both ends - their base, middle America (both of which want a public option for health care), and of course Republicans (who were never going to support them, anyway).

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It feels like all the people who want limited government really just want government limited to Republicans.
---The Daily Show

Saying the public *wants* it is quite a statement.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

After an election, realism sets in and we all realize that Democrats don't give a flying **** about the people, either.

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Buckle your pants or they might fall down.

Show me those polls.

Show me "minority."

Alternatively, you could stop making things up.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Montegue:

We can look at very real facts about the situation as well. Republicans have won 33 of the 56 Special Elections that took place since the 2008 Election. Republicans took the governor's office in 2 "blue" states, as far as the 2008 Election went. This seems to suggest that the voting public is displeased with Democratic leadership. At the very least, the voting public is displeased with both sides of the partisan leadership in the nation.

That said, polls indicate that the majority of Americans want no change in their current healthcare situation. These polls have been posted on this forum by DFK! more times than I can count. And, yet, you continue to consider that everyone wants a robust public option. You dismiss all vocal or public opposition to Obama and Democrat policy on anything as extremism, tiny, and fundamentalist; yet, the opposition has the Senate and House; and votes are not going the direction that would dictate support for the Democratic Party of the United States.

The situation, from where I'm sitting, is that the silent majority in the United States has finally decided to speak. They have finally decide to tell the government the following things:

1. We're tired of supporting those who refuse to support themselves.
2. We're tired of footing the bill for rampant borrow and spend governance.
3. We're tired of being told other people are entitled to the fruits of our labor.

I have posted, twice now, an article that explains far more eloquently and brilliantly than I could ever hope to achieve how Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and John Kerry Commoditized the office of the Presidency; how factionalism in the United States has reduced our governance to an advertising campaign and nothing more. I implore you to read it. The author's name is Slavoj Žižek.

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Anecdotally, I've met so many people in my community relations role here that are so fed up with heavy bureaucracy and high taxation it's hard to believe. I mean, most of these people still buy into the false dichotomy of Democrat v. Republican, but many do not. People I've known as long-time-member-of-party-X are "out of the car" as it were.

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

While I agree with the indication of electoral results indicating a dissatifaction with Democrats and wishfully think that that is indeed what the American public is trying to tell the government, I don't see how electing Republicans fixes anything.

That's like scrubbing your hands with horseshit to get off the dog ****.

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"It's real, grew up in trife life, the times of white lines
The hype vice, murderous nighttimes and knife fights invite crimes" - Nasir Jones

Rafael:

That's the problem with false dilemma politics.

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Wow. Be sure to click through, guys. The article itself is full of doozies.

Democratic support has fallen the furthest in the NorthEast and Pacific Rim? I lived in the NorthEast, and let me tell you; that astounds me. This isn't just remorse in the people who swung Democrat last year after 8 years of Bush; that suggests to me some serious undercurrents of geographical demographic change.

Monte, here's your evidence of a "vocal minority" --


That's right. Your "vocal minority" is 47% of the population. Wow, that's so marginal. But, I guess when you're a big government cheerleader, 51% is a mandate that is worth of oppressing the 49%.

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"Aaaah! Emotions are weird!" - Amdee
"... Mirrorshades prevent the forces of normalcy from realizing that one is crazed and possibly dangerous. They are the symbol of the sun-staring visionary, the biker, the rocker, the policeman, and similar outlaws." - Bruce Sterling, preface to Mirrorshades

Speaking of:

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/washing.asp


Might be time for a new sig and avatar for me!

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“The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” - Thomas Paine

Here's the problem. Since we have evidence that the majority of Americans want no change in their own healthcare, the poll is rather damning. Since all of the legislation will DRIVE UP the cost of private healthcare, there support Montegue argues for does not exist.

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Looks like Obama's approval numbers are way down too.